Full downgrade from EXP to general AA?
#46
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: USA
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#47
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: AA EXP; 1W Emerald; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold; UA dirt
Posts: 7,811
You do realize that status earned in 2021 was done via flying, no? Try not to be so smug and remember that prior qualification was all about the EQDs and EQSs and EQMs. The poster was complaining about his inability to have a status level which would have been based on 2021 activity.
#48
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: USA
Programs: American Airlines (Executive Platinum), Hyatt (Globalist), Hilton (Diamond), IHG (Diamond)
Posts: 2,917
Qualification in 2019 was via a lot more flying and spending than in 2020 or 2021, but a lot of people here are thrilled those people lost their status without really ever being able to use it.
#49
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: AA EXP; 1W Emerald; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold; UA dirt
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And the airlines reduced qualification standards (again based on EQDs, EQSs, and EQMs) significantly in 2020 and 2021. There was plenty of flying to be done (and spending). You earned status from following the rules and taking advantage of the offers in place. Sorry, if I can't feel pity for those who did not fly. They did not meet the definition of frequent flier as defined during the periods in question.
#50
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: USA
Programs: American Airlines (Executive Platinum), Hyatt (Globalist), Hilton (Diamond), IHG (Diamond)
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And the airlines reduced qualification standards (again based on EQDs, EQSs, and EQMs) significantly in 2020 and 2021. There was plenty of flying to be done (and spending). You earned status from following the rules and taking advantage of the offers in place. Sorry, if I can't feel pity for those who did not fly. They did not meet the definition of frequent flier as defined during the periods in question.
"Sorry you didn't get to use the status you earned in 2019, but if it means more upgrades for me, I'm happy to see you lose your status."
#51
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: AA Executive Platinum/Million Miler, Marriott Titanium Elite-Lifetime, Hilton Gold
Posts: 3,198
You do realize that status earned in 2021 was done via flying, no? Try not to be so smug and remember that prior qualification was all about the EQDs and EQSs and EQMs. The poster was complaining about his inability to have a status level which would have been based on 2021 activity.
#52
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: AA EXP; 1W Emerald; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold; UA dirt
Posts: 7,811
#53
Join Date: Aug 2021
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#54
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: DCA/IAD
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#55
Join Date: Aug 2021
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I wasn't wrong about anything. The 2019 EXPs flew and spent a lot more than the 2020s or 2021s but then weren't able to fully use the benefits. We just went through this.
#56
Join Date: Sep 2000
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Bye.
#57
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: USA
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Not sure what 1999 has to do with anything, but it's obvious loyalty is a one-way street with AA. The other, better-run airlines all extended status.
#58
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Hawaii
Programs: AA EXP, HA PL, Hilton 💎, Marriott Ti, Wyndham/Caesars 💎, Hertz PC
Posts: 343
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But seriously, there were multiple emails, not to mention the posts here on FT and articles from every points and miles blog, detailing the pandemic status policy and the new LP system. Zero sympathy. No other airline made it as easy to maintain status - American was actually the first airline to announce 2021 status extensions and elite reduced elite thresholds. I actually went from Platinum (earned from a challenge back in fall of '19, extended through the end of last year) to EP based on the reduced EQM/EQD and extended qualification period (they effectively gave us 18 months to qualify for 2021 - last three months of 2020 and first three of 2022 counted).
Have fun with DL and their 180k one-way skypeso partner J awards (round-trip only) and decrepit fleet. And by the time you qualify for elite status they might actually have proper business class lounges a la AA Flagship and UA Polaris.
But seriously, there were multiple emails, not to mention the posts here on FT and articles from every points and miles blog, detailing the pandemic status policy and the new LP system. Zero sympathy. No other airline made it as easy to maintain status - American was actually the first airline to announce 2021 status extensions and elite reduced elite thresholds. I actually went from Platinum (earned from a challenge back in fall of '19, extended through the end of last year) to EP based on the reduced EQM/EQD and extended qualification period (they effectively gave us 18 months to qualify for 2021 - last three months of 2020 and first three of 2022 counted).
Have fun with DL and their 180k one-way skypeso partner J awards (round-trip only) and decrepit fleet. And by the time you qualify for elite status they might actually have proper business class lounges a la AA Flagship and UA Polaris.
Last edited by ajf87; May 5, 2022 at 2:27 pm
#59
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: AA EXP, AA Million Miles, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,581
And thinking any airline program is a two way loyalty exchange is a fool's errand. These are transactional programs designed to keep you using the airline...airlines don't need to be "loyal" to you.
#60
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 192
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But seriously, there were multiple emails, not to mention the posts here on FT and articles from every points and miles blog, detailing the pandemic status policy and the new LP system. Zero sympathy. No other airline made it as easy to maintain status - American was actually the first airline to announce 2021 status extensions and elite reduced elite thresholds. I actually went from Platinum (earned from a challenge back in fall of '19, extended through the end of last year) to EP based on the reduced EQM/EQD and extended qualification period (they effectively gave us 18 months to qualify for 2021 - last three months of 2020 and first three of 2022 counted).
Have fun with DL and their 180k-skypeso partner J awards (round-trip only) and decrepit fleet. And by the time you qualify for elite status they might actually have proper business class lounges a la AA Flagship and UA Polaris.
But seriously, there were multiple emails, not to mention the posts here on FT and articles from every points and miles blog, detailing the pandemic status policy and the new LP system. Zero sympathy. No other airline made it as easy to maintain status - American was actually the first airline to announce 2021 status extensions and elite reduced elite thresholds. I actually went from Platinum (earned from a challenge back in fall of '19, extended through the end of last year) to EP based on the reduced EQM/EQD and extended qualification period (they effectively gave us 18 months to qualify for 2021 - last three months of 2020 and first three of 2022 counted).
Have fun with DL and their 180k-skypeso partner J awards (round-trip only) and decrepit fleet. And by the time you qualify for elite status they might actually have proper business class lounges a la AA Flagship and UA Polaris.
If we want to talk AA criticisms, their $12 food voucher for delays is insulting, it barely covers the cost of water and a sandwich at the grab and go kiosks.
Last edited by FlyingFromNY; May 5, 2022 at 2:43 pm