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Problems with a lounge bartender (How would you handle a situation like this?)

Problems with a lounge bartender (How would you handle a situation like this?)

Old Apr 20, 2022, 8:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Doppy
It's bizarre that people are either taking the position that the OP was asking for too much, or that it made sense for the OP to run back and forth between the bar and soda machine, rather than the bartender actually just tend bar and make a simple drink.
But it wasn't a simple drink. Diet coke is a simple drink. Heck, diet coke with cherry syrup is a simple drink. But then you have (1) tall glass, (2) easy ice, and (3) lime, and any good bartender would roll her eyes, even if a generous one might go ahead and indulge. Keep in mind that the average person with this kind of request will then micromanage the creation of the beverage ("well, I didn't mean that easy on the ice") and will likely either not tip or tip at most a dollar for what ought to be a $2-3 special request.

The self-service machine is great exactly because it caters to people like OP who want multi-modded drinks. Just grab the tall glass and lime from the bar (which I wouldn't feel any compulsion to tip for), and move on.
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Old Apr 20, 2022, 8:22 pm
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After reading about three-quarters of this thread - when my eyes started glazing over - I realized that it was five minutes of my life I’ll never get back.
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Old Apr 20, 2022, 8:39 pm
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How would I have handled it, well I would not have spent much time letting it get to me. I mean the energy involved in getting worked up and finding the manager telling her the story maybe when I was younger but today I would have gotten over it fast an sat down and moved on to something else.
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Old Apr 20, 2022, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by platbrownguy
But it wasn't a simple drink. Diet coke is a simple drink. Heck, diet coke with cherry syrup is a simple drink. But then you have (1) tall glass, (2) easy ice, and (3) lime, and any good bartender would roll her eyes, even if a generous one might go ahead and indulge. Keep in mind that the average person with this kind of request will then micromanage the creation of the beverage ("well, I didn't mean that easy on the ice") and will likely either not tip or tip at most a dollar for what ought to be a $2-3 special request.

The self-service machine is great exactly because it caters to people like OP who want multi-modded drinks. Just grab the tall glass and lime from the bar (which I wouldn't feel any compulsion to tip for), and move on.
The issue is that the self service machine has cherry coke, not coke with cherry syrup - similar, but different taste.

Regardless, this is what the bartender is there for. Mixing and serving. How is this materially different than an old fashioned, martini etc?

Them saying no is like my client asking me a question and me sending them a link to wikipedia.

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Old Apr 20, 2022, 8:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Antarius
How is this materially different than an old fashioned...
...to be ordered at your own risk in the AC.

But seriously, this is a hospitality job and the setting is one in which the customers should be made to feel welcome. This specific bartender's attitude is clearly inappropriate and should be addressed.

The fetish with the drink machine that management seems to push onto the staff generally is also an issue. The club is not a factory. AA should give the operations focus a rest.
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Old Apr 20, 2022, 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Antarius
The issue is that the self service machine has cherry coke, not coke with cherry syrup - similar, but different taste.
​​​​​​Had to get this from the bar at DFW D last year because the machine was broken. The bar version was way better. Bartender even gave me 2 even though I only wanted 1, maybe so I didn't have to come back.
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Old Apr 20, 2022, 9:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Antarius
How is this materially different than an old fashioned, martini etc?
Originally Posted by NYC Flyer
...to be ordered at your own risk in the AC.
Exactly -- AC bartenders generally make one-ingredient and two-ingredient drinks, plus garnish. There are some well-established exceptions like margarita and bloody mary and whatever they have on their "featured cocktail" display or menu. But once you get into martini, old fashioned, manhattan, negroni territory, then you're that guy. If you know the bartender or if you have good reason to believe they're able to make that drink, and if there's not a long line behind you, then fine. But otherwise this just ain't that kind of joint.

Reminds me of a sign I saw at a bar, something like "1 ingredient, $5; 2 ingredients, $6. 3 ingredients, $10; 4 ingredients, $20; 5 or more, get out"
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Old Apr 20, 2022, 9:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Gertjaars

You need to assert dominance in these types of situation. This employees only job is to serve you drinks, not to point fingers or mock you.
Um, wow.

I get being dissatisfied with customer service.
Claiming to be humiliated over the suggestion you get your cherry coke at a machine is borderline (the overwrought language makes me skeptical).
But suggesting the response is to "assert dominance" is beyond the pale. This isn't a dog. It's a human.

If you are an entitled customer who "asserts dominance" over service employees regularly, that would explain why you may not get the most helpful friendly service.

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Old Apr 20, 2022, 9:32 pm
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None of these people make very much money, and you have no idea what or who that bartender had to deal with prior to your encounter. I wouldn't have been happy in your shoes, but I think running to the manager and making a stink was as much of an overreaction as hers was to your very inflexible drink request. (A drink request which I find revolting FWIW.) Perhaps laughing along and having a little understanding would have made for a better outcome for everyone concerned. It sounds like she had plenty of other satisfied customers.
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Old Apr 20, 2022, 9:35 pm
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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
The OP posted their 160k a year traveling rate. I used mine as a counterpoint saying that I’ve never been on the end of such devastating humiliation despite more than 2.5 million miles of travel.
Yeah, that's the point. Things like this don't happen often and they should not happen at all. If the story is accurate then that employee should not work there any more.

If it's not accurate then of course we don't know. You're saying that you don't believe it, which is fine. I'm saying that I don't know because I wasn't there.
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Old Apr 20, 2022, 9:36 pm
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Originally Posted by platbrownguy
Exactly -- AC bartenders generally make one-ingredient and two-ingredient drinks, plus garnish. There are some well-established exceptions like margarita and bloody mary and whatever they have on their "featured cocktail" display or menu. But once you get into martini, old fashioned, manhattan, negroni territory, then you're that guy. If you know the bartender or if you have good reason to believe they're able to make that drink, and if there's not a long line behind you, then fine. But otherwise this just ain't that kind of joint.

Reminds me of a sign I saw at a bar, something like "1 ingredient, $5; 2 ingredients, $6. 3 ingredients, $10; 4 ingredients, $20; 5 or more, get out"
IMO, they're in the wrong profession if cherry + coke + lime is too much. The OP isn't asking some random person for help, this person is behind the bar with the sole job of bartending.

I can't see how ordering a basic drink makes you "that guy". Somehow the Amex Centurion lounge manages without issue as does every bar. Remarkably, AA manages to find a way to have it's staff underwhelm in every comparable position.
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Old Apr 20, 2022, 9:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Antarius
IMO, they're in the wrong profession if cherry + coke + lime is too much. The OP isn't asking some random person for help, this person is behind the bar with the sole job of bartending.

I can't see how ordering a basic drink makes you "that guy". Somehow the Amex Centurion lounge manages without issue as does every bar. Somehow AA manages to find a way to have it's staff underwhelm in every comparable position.
The fact that it's a simple drink that anyone who calls themselves a bartender (or even someone who doesn't; I would feel fairly confident mixing this one up) can make is not the point. Maybe she is a great bartender and maybe she is a terrible one. Or maybe somewhere in between. But the fact that she felt the need to be condescending means that she should not hold any job where she has to interact with customers. The only real job requirement here is to be polite to the customers, and she went beyond failing miserably.
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Old Apr 20, 2022, 9:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Tintin
Many thanks. Took your advice. Spoke with manager Lana. She was most gracious, incredibly helpful, and profusely apologized. Got a great delicious drink from the other bar. More later. Many thanks.
OP, out of curiosity, was the first bartender's name Xavi? Puerto Rican woman?
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Old Apr 20, 2022, 10:26 pm
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Originally Posted by platbrownguy
Reminds me of a sign I saw at a bar, something like "1 ingredient, $5; 2 ingredients, $6. 3 ingredients, $10; 4 ingredients, $20; 5 or more, get out"
Hilarious, and I can totally understand the sentiment...at a pub or dive bar.

Originally Posted by platbrownguy
But otherwise this just ain't that kind of joint.
The issue is that the AC is positioning the club as a premium product, and the overt emphasis on "faster processing" of the sheep customers is antithetical to this. IMHO, the requested drink was not unreasonable, nor does it require the skill or time involved in making a proper cocktail. Had the request included a zest of lime, muddled maraschino cherries, etc, or the customer came back twice for refills and never tipped, then I could see it being excessive.
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Old Apr 20, 2022, 11:12 pm
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It is possible they ran out of Diet Cherry Coke. Sometimes the EK First Lounge at DXB run out of Chateau Mouton or Dom Perignon P2 too.
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