AA PHL-ABE/ACY (and others) bus services
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#77
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If you are from out of the region and need to fly to AC on AA, I still would think the door to door time is shorter by just getting off in Philly and renting a car. it's almost exactly 1 hour from PHL airport to downtown AC by car. Maybe a little longer if you hit rush hour in the PHL area and bridge. By the time your half way there, the PHL-ACY bus will be boarding and by the time you get into downtown AC, the AC bus will be 40 minutes behind you.
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My girlfriend and I, trapped in Cape May (WWD), are starting to book travel out of ACY to the wild blue yonder. We are now waitlisted for first class on the ACY-PHL segment. However, this first segment refuses to produce a seat map. While it's possible someone might beat us to it, i will document the experience inside the "Luxury Bus".
Will we get upgraded? Will we be served the much loved bologna sandwich? What will the safety briefing be like? We will have to wait until late June.
Will we get upgraded? Will we be served the much loved bologna sandwich? What will the safety briefing be like? We will have to wait until late June.
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If you are from out of the region and need to fly to AC on AA, I still would think the door to door time is shorter by just getting off in Philly and renting a car. it's almost exactly 1 hour from PHL airport to downtown AC by car. Maybe a little longer if you hit rush hour in the PHL area and bridge. By the time your half way there, the PHL-ACY bus will be boarding and by the time you get into downtown AC, the AC bus will be 40 minutes behind you.
There are no reasonably priced gas stations very close to PHL. Last summer I exited somewhere off of the Blue Route and drove around in what ended up being a large circle until I found one.
I've also encountered the traffic jam/accident on the Blue Route while in a rental car, which resulted in missing my flight from PHL.
Overall, if you can return a vehicle to ACY or ABE, clear security there (that is a disaster on a good day at PHL), and arrive post-security, just having to make your way to a gate, then that is easily worth $50 to me.
I visit family in Northeast PA regularly, and will usually opt to fly to AVP or ABE just to avoid beginning the trip at PHL. I'll arrive at AVP and be at my gate in 15 minutes, or less. That includes parking/returning the rental car (there's a cheap gas station just the other side of I-81), checking bags, and clearing security. At PHL...on a good day that might be 30 minutes, but on a not-so-good day easily an hour to 90 minutes.
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A bit off topic, but when returning a rental car at PHL the best gas station option is the Wawa on Bartram near the employee parking lot. May not be the absolute cheapest but usually reasonable price and closest to rental car return lot.
#81
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Having rented vehicles from PHL and done security there a few times (I generally avoid it), I would say the ACY bus would be time/money well spent.
There are no reasonably priced gas stations very close to PHL. Last summer I exited somewhere off of the Blue Route and drove around in what ended up being a large circle until I found one.
I've also encountered the traffic jam/accident on the Blue Route while in a rental car, which resulted in missing my flight from PHL.
Overall, if you can return a vehicle to ACY or ABE, clear security there (that is a disaster on a good day at PHL), and arrive post-security, just having to make your way to a gate, then that is easily worth $50 to me.
I visit family in Northeast PA regularly, and will usually opt to fly to AVP or ABE just to avoid beginning the trip at PHL. I'll arrive at AVP and be at my gate in 15 minutes, or less. That includes parking/returning the rental car (there's a cheap gas station just the other side of I-81), checking bags, and clearing security. At PHL...on a good day that might be 30 minutes, but on a not-so-good day easily an hour to 90 minutes.
There are no reasonably priced gas stations very close to PHL. Last summer I exited somewhere off of the Blue Route and drove around in what ended up being a large circle until I found one.
I've also encountered the traffic jam/accident on the Blue Route while in a rental car, which resulted in missing my flight from PHL.
Overall, if you can return a vehicle to ACY or ABE, clear security there (that is a disaster on a good day at PHL), and arrive post-security, just having to make your way to a gate, then that is easily worth $50 to me.
I visit family in Northeast PA regularly, and will usually opt to fly to AVP or ABE just to avoid beginning the trip at PHL. I'll arrive at AVP and be at my gate in 15 minutes, or less. That includes parking/returning the rental car (there's a cheap gas station just the other side of I-81), checking bags, and clearing security. At PHL...on a good day that might be 30 minutes, but on a not-so-good day easily an hour to 90 minutes.
As a PHL O&D flyer, I'm only speaking from the perspective of a passenger with PreCheck. The curb to gate time for me is usually under 20 minutes - maybe a few minutes more if I have to do the self-luggage check in. I've NEVER experienced 60-90 minute waits. but I've had pre-check for 12 years, and I have seen very long lines at B (no PreCheck there) that makes me wonder why more people don't get PreCheck. I feel the same way when I see a line of cars at a cash toll booth when there are wide open lanes for EZ-Pass cars. To each their own.
If I were going up to NE PA, like the Scranton/Poconos area, I would also probably opt to fly directly into ABE or AVP if I was coming from far away. I still content that I can get to downtown ACY in 60 minutes from the moment I step into a car anywhere around PHL airport. Ditto for the return. 1 hour from AC to rental car/parking lot. The check in process will be dependent on airline and if someone has PC or not.
I'll be curious to hear any experiences once this bus service kicks off.
#82
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The locals in Atlantic County seem to have no problem making it to Flyers, Sixers, Eagles games in South Philly with their cars. As long as there is parking, although parking has been more limited in PHL lately.
#83
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I didn't know about this existing thread when I posted #65.
Caesars and Hardrock casinos run charters from lots of east coast cities to ACY, these are 30 seat planes, there is no interaction with TSA. Borgata had a similar arrangement but will be using 170 seat planes via SUNCOUNTRY from as far away ad TEXAS.
Pre-Covid Greyhound ran "casino" service between PHL directly to select casinos. When PA legalized gambling, lots of PAers
gambled locally, does AA expect lots of pax to "fly
" between PHL and ACY?
Caesars and Hardrock casinos run charters from lots of east coast cities to ACY, these are 30 seat planes, there is no interaction with TSA. Borgata had a similar arrangement but will be using 170 seat planes via SUNCOUNTRY from as far away ad TEXAS.
Pre-Covid Greyhound ran "casino" service between PHL directly to select casinos. When PA legalized gambling, lots of PAers


#84
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On how parking affects, it is scarcer at PHL as the economy parking lot at PHL will not re-open:
https://www.inquirer.com/business/ph...-20211104.html
https://www.inquirer.com/business/ph...-20211104.html
Last edited by LINDEGR; May 3, 22 at 10:30 am
#85
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https://www.phillyvoice.com/philly-a...-indefinitely/
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That routing is, unfortunately, a limitation of the century+ old Pennsylvania Railroad. We'll never see a maglev from center city PHL directly down to AC via the 42 freeway and AC Expressway.
In fact, Amtrak used to run that route many years ago. Not profitable even for a quasi government operated entity. You don't see NJTransit rail servicing any other PA stations either. This was the result of some kind of deal made when Amtrak dropped the route years back.
In fact, Amtrak used to run that route many years ago. Not profitable even for a quasi government operated entity. You don't see NJTransit rail servicing any other PA stations either. This was the result of some kind of deal made when Amtrak dropped the route years back.
Last edited by LINDEGR; May 3, 22 at 11:24 am
#87
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My point was that NJT doesn't serve any PA stations *EXCEPT* Philadelphia 30th Street. NJT runs it from that station *ONLY* to AC, and yes it's about 90 minutes making numerous local stops along the way in South Jersey. As it gets into NJ, many of the riders are casino employees who definitely save money on gas, tolls and wear and tear from driving this trip every day. But for the occasional AC visitor, it's far from any kind of express/high speed route.
In the context of this thread, it's a longer, more cumbersome route for someone to get from PHL airport to Philly 30th Street station on SEPTA and then shlep from the upper to lower platforms to get the NJT train. Certainly more than 90 minutes when all said and done.
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AA has now announced another bus route...PHL-LNS.
https://lancasteronline.com/news/loc...f353fe096.html
Not sure I understand AA's strategy here.
LNS is a 35-mile (30 min) drive from MDT, a very underutilized airport in a region with 1.8 million people within a one-hour drive. As a pax I'm not sure if, given a choice, I would choose a 90 minute bus ride without traffic that can easily jump to 2+ hours during rush hour and / or inclement weather.
https://lancasteronline.com/news/loc...f353fe096.html
Not sure I understand AA's strategy here.
LNS is a 35-mile (30 min) drive from MDT, a very underutilized airport in a region with 1.8 million people within a one-hour drive. As a pax I'm not sure if, given a choice, I would choose a 90 minute bus ride without traffic that can easily jump to 2+ hours during rush hour and / or inclement weather.