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Originally Posted by JJeffrey
(Post 34142594)
"Miles being more valuable" is entirely subjective and depends on how you're going to earn and use the miles. It's not like 30 or 40k of either AS miles or AA miles will get you a first class trip around the world.
AA: 110k, 90k, 80k (CX and BA) AS: 70k each leg. So, for AA you would need 280k, and AS would be 210k. Now, neither AA nor AS offer around the world tickets (Oneworld Explorer), so this isn't literally the "RTW" ticket where you can stop a million times as long as you keep going in the same direction. |
Originally Posted by s0ssos
(Post 34150163)
So if you actually do the math, and compare AS first-class around the world (for simplicity US to Asia, HKG, to Europe, then back to US):
AA: 110k, 90k, 80k (CX and BA) AS: 70k each leg. So, for AA you would need 280k, and AS would be 210k. Now, neither AA nor AS offer around the world tickets (Oneworld Explorer), so this isn't literally the "RTW" ticket where you can stop a million times as long as you keep going in the same direction. But AS - AA do not have a RTW award product. Some other OW ffp's do have multi airline award product with stopovers. With AS awards the stop over feature, where available, is very useful. AA eliminated stopovers on awards some time ago. |
Originally Posted by s0ssos
(Post 34150163)
So if you actually do the math, and compare AS first-class around the world (for simplicity US to Asia, HKG, to Europe, then back to US):
AA: 110k, 90k, 80k (CX and BA) AS: 70k each leg. So, for AA you would need 280k, and AS would be 210k. Now, neither AA nor AS offer around the world tickets (Oneworld Explorer), so this isn't literally the "RTW" ticket where you can stop a million times as long as you keep going in the same direction. This is how I've always used my AS miles in the past. For example, SFO-TYO//TYO-BKK, then BKK-HKG//HKG-SFO, with the TPAC segments in F and intra-asia in J, for two first class awards (145k miles). You can also use the stopover domestically if you don't want to visit another place. For example, I've done NYC-SFO//SFO-TYO, all in F, with a several-month stopover in SF (I lived there at the time) for 70k miles (the same price as SFO-TYO). So basically I got the return of a NYC trip "for free", booking into F. |
Originally Posted by VegasGambler
(Post 34150849)
As others have mentioned, the stopovers add significant value. It's a bit of a waste to use an Alaska award. For example, in your RTW example, you can fly F to Tokyo, stop for as long as you want, and then J to BKK (only because there's no F intra-Asia) for a single 75k mile first class JL award. That would require two awards on AA.
This is how I've always used my AS miles in the past. For example, SFO-TYO//TYO-BKK, then BKK-HKG//HKG-SFO, with the TPAC segments in F and intra-asia in J, for two first class awards (145k miles). You can also use the stopover domestically if you don't want to visit another place. For example, I've done NYC-SFO//SFO-TYO, all in F, with a several-month stopover in SF (I lived there at the time) for 70k miles (the same price as SFO-TYO). So basically I got the return of a NYC trip "for free", booking into F. But yes, stopovers are tremendous values. I guess people did the SQ stopover deal initially, though they stopped that. |
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