EncFlyer

We have a round trip next month with two of our segments being MIA-LAV and LAV-MIA first class on the 777-200ER. My question is will we have access to the Flagship First Lounge at MIA for those two segments?

maat777

No you will not. Flagship is limited to First on a 3 class transcon or other qualifying int'l routes.

FlyingEgghead

Hold on here.

1. There is no such thing as "Flagship First Lounge".
2. What is the route? I'll assume that LAV is a typo and LAS is correct.

If the question is about Flagship Lounge (FL) access, then no, MIA-LAS in F does not qualify (even if it's on a widebody), because it isn't a Flagship route.

MIA-LAX does qualify for FL when it's on a widebody (as it usually is these days), because J/F there is marketed as Flagship. Contrary to maat777 above, 2-class F and 3-class J/F all qualify for FL as long as it's a Flagship flight (not limited to 3-class F).

If the question is about Flagship First Dining (the exclusive restaurant within the FL), that is limited to 3-class F.

ghsbass0406

You can always pay $150 for a day pass to the FL in MIA. Or you could route your trip through LAX and pay for a business class seat to get FL access in both LAX and MIA. But LAS-MIA doesn't qualify as a flagship route so no automatic FL access, let alone Flagship First dining access, which only happens (as others have correctly indicated) when you're flying on a flagship route in first class on a 4 class 777-300 ER international (FF, FB, PE, E) or 3 class (FF, FB, E) A-321Transcon (JFK-LAX/SNA/SFO (or 3 class 777-300ER LAX-MIA). See https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...hip-lounge.jsp

metallo

Flagship First service is quite limited… only 777-300 and A321T aircraft, and only certain routes (international and premium transcon) qualify.

MIA-LAS is neither a premium route nor on a qualifying 3/4 class aircraft.

aamilesslave

Does AA actually sell PE on domestic transcon routes besides Hawaii and Alaska?

ghsbass0406

I edited my post to reflect 3 class LAX-MIA flights. You're right, PE is only available domestically on HI/AK flights.

maat777

You're absolutely right - First of Biz on Transcon. LAS is not listed as a qualifying route. It's all Hawaii flights outside of transcon or int'l:

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...hip-lounge.jsp

FlyerBeek

Actually just the longer Hawaii flights to/from DFW/ORD/CLT. The shorter west coast-Hawaii (LAX/PHX) flights are not considered Flagship, regardless of equipment used.

-FlyerBeek

hotshot265

Not all widebody flights on MIA-LAX are Flagship..I am flying 2/7 on AA2283, which is a 789, and while it is listed as Business, it is not Flagship Business as it is on the 772. When I booked this flight, I was not given pre-order meal choice options. Doing a dummy booking on AA344 on the 772, I could select pre-order meals. My assumption is it is standard domestic F service on a wide body.

FlyingEgghead

Thanks, this is very strange and seems like a glitch. On other dates, seemingly at random (e.g., 2/16, 2/20, 2/21, 2/23), your flight AA2283 (same time, same 789 equipment) is marketed as Flagship Business. Likewise for AA314, the flight about an hour later, also on a 789: some days plain Business and some days Flagship Business.

I think it has been a reliable rule that no AA domestic flight has a cabin called Business unless it is Flagship Business. Domestic non-Flagship flights are sold with 2 classes, Main and First (regardless of equipment). That's why having non-Flagship Business here seems very squirrelly.

For example, there's an occasional narrowbody MIA-LAX (e.g., AA2289 on 3/8) where we see First (as expected), not Business. Same with OP's widebody MIA-LAS in First. The existence of non-Flagship Business domestically is an anomaly.

FlyerBeek

Definitely a glitch. FWIW, for the last year AA.com has occasionally hiccupped on this route. For a short while last year, it was even labeling the 737/321 as "Flagship" on MIA-LAX.

-FlyerBeek

FlyingEgghead

Checking again, it appears the glitch has been fixed and all widebody MIA-LAX flights are now Flagship. I am very curious what your service was like yesterday. My guess is that you got the pleasant surprise of a Flagship Business meal.

redtop43

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