F/A Union proposes, AA accepts, REDUCED service levels
Jan 20, 2022, 8:37 am
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I have a better suggestion, since this virus is airborne transmitted and most likely be transmitted by talking to each other, banning all these FAs from chitchatting with each other will most likely stop the spread.
Really don’t understand what exactly could be reduced. Barely flying AA for a long time since not close to their hubs now but isn’t the stuff already served on one tray on most routes? And are they sure they really served 2nd round beverage in main on routes more than 1400mi before (despite being required to do so)? Even before covid??
Really don’t understand what exactly could be reduced. Barely flying AA for a long time since not close to their hubs now but isn’t the stuff already served on one tray on most routes? And are they sure they really served 2nd round beverage in main on routes more than 1400mi before (despite being required to do so)? Even before covid??
Right!How about ask FAs to wear KF94s/KN95s (some are decently comfortable) instead? Or require passengers to wear at minimum a surgical mask (brand it with AA even). That would make everyone safer versus reducing service.
We know a plane is safer space than a restaurant at this point due to the masks and HEPA.A 'touchpoint" (aka a tray of food) is not spreading COVID. We know this now, it isn't March 2020.
If the union is really worried about employee safety they'd be requesting AA provide better masks.
Last edited by airb330; Jan 20, 2022 at 8:45 am
Jan 20, 2022, 8:52 am
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Jan 20, 2022, 9:50 am
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Right!How about ask FAs to wear KF94s/KN95s (some are decently comfortable) instead? Or require passengers to wear at minimum a surgical mask (brand it with AA even). That would make everyone safer versus reducing service.
We know a plane is safer space than a restaurant at this point due to the masks and HEPA.A 'touchpoint" (aka a tray of food) is not spreading COVID. We know this now, it isn't March 2020.
If the union is really worried about employee safety they'd be requesting AA provide better masks.
The one thing I find hilarious with all of these service cutbacks is the massive advertising airlines did within the last year to encourage pax to get back onboard..."It's safe to fly, experts agree!!" or my favorite (on the AS website) "Travelers wearing a mask have a .003% or NEAR-ZERO CHANCE [Alaska's emphasis, not mine] of being exposed to the virus, even on a full aircraft".
If providing a second beverage service in Y on a transcon flight is such a risk to the flight crew, then there isn't a near-zero chance of being exposed to the virus onboard. You can't have it both ways.
Jan 20, 2022, 10:04 am
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The insanity of these demands by the union is so absurd that I truly can't understand why AA management would entertain them even for a second. The only conclusion I can draw is that, short of physically assaulting passengers, American's leadership thinks that they can treat their customers as poorly as they want without any significant loss of revenue. Passengers have become as much a commodity to them as corn or wheat.
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Jan 20, 2022, 11:46 am
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Honestly.
Jan 20, 2022, 3:07 pm
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Jan 20, 2022, 3:34 pm
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It is a simple union leadership request to management as part of an ongoing back and forth collective bargaining relationship.
People swearing that they will avoid AA because the FA might serve the appetizer and the entree on the same tray seems a little like complaining about the music the band was playing on the Titanic. People acting like a union request is 'insanity'. Its not insanity, its posturing. Its the union leadership justifying collecting dues by making requests of management on the workers' behalf. Like every other industrial union on the planet.
Here is the total request:
"APFA proposals include serving entreés with salad/soup/appetizers in premium cabins when possible and reducing main cabin beverage services on domestic and IPD flights. We have asked that these reductions in service be implemented immediately."
https://mailchi.mp/apfa.org/temporar...service-levels
This is what people are losing their gourd over. A temporary request. By the time the company even starts discussing it, Omicron surge will already be over.
1) Temporary: lasting for only a limited period of time; not permanent.
2) Request: an act of asking politely or formally for something.
Of all the reasons to be avoiding AA lately (operational meltdowns, cancelled flights, inability to reach customer service, tone deaf management, apathetic and/or hostile employees, devalued loyalty program, etc) the potential (not actually happening, but potential) of not having your appetizer served separately from your entree seems to be an odd 'final straw'.
But it is fun to read.
People swearing that they will avoid AA because the FA might serve the appetizer and the entree on the same tray seems a little like complaining about the music the band was playing on the Titanic. People acting like a union request is 'insanity'. Its not insanity, its posturing. Its the union leadership justifying collecting dues by making requests of management on the workers' behalf. Like every other industrial union on the planet.
Here is the total request:
"APFA proposals include serving entreés with salad/soup/appetizers in premium cabins when possible and reducing main cabin beverage services on domestic and IPD flights. We have asked that these reductions in service be implemented immediately."
https://mailchi.mp/apfa.org/temporar...service-levels
This is what people are losing their gourd over. A temporary request. By the time the company even starts discussing it, Omicron surge will already be over.
1) Temporary: lasting for only a limited period of time; not permanent.
2) Request: an act of asking politely or formally for something.
Of all the reasons to be avoiding AA lately (operational meltdowns, cancelled flights, inability to reach customer service, tone deaf management, apathetic and/or hostile employees, devalued loyalty program, etc) the potential (not actually happening, but potential) of not having your appetizer served separately from your entree seems to be an odd 'final straw'.
But it is fun to read.
Jan 20, 2022, 5:08 pm
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This is the correct answer. I changed mine to UA from AA Jan 1. Could not switch in December because of 40 usd used on AA.
Jan 20, 2022, 7:42 pm
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This is what people are losing their gourd over. A temporary request. By the time the company even starts discussing it, Omicron surge will already be over.
1) Temporary: lasting for only a limited period of time; not permanent.
2) Request: an act of asking politely or formally for something.
1) Temporary: lasting for only a limited period of time; not permanent.
2) Request: an act of asking politely or formally for something.