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Old Jan 6, 2022, 12:55 pm
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plan for status questions

Good afternoon,

I will be using my AA CC to accumulate points for award travel and now status. I have a couple questions please:

1) If my charges post now before 2/28 will the points go towards achieving status in 2022? And once I hit 75K will my status immediately reflect Platinum in2022 or am I earning towards 2023?
2) is it true that in addition to earning 125,000 or 200,000 Loyalty Points for Platinum Pro or Executive Platinum status, respectively, you’ll also need to fly at least 30 segments with American? And if so and in that segments would not be achievable for me is the basic Platinum $75K essentially the top status I canachieve?

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Old Jan 6, 2022, 1:14 pm
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You do need 30 segments to unlock the rewards (SWUs for example). I think you can still earn EXP status with the proper number of points, you just don't get the reward.

And your January and February purchases in 2022 do count.
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 1:18 pm
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1) As far as I know, credit card spend does not count toward 2022 status. Status for 2022 is still based on EQD/EQM/EQS, subject to the various promotions offered. The spend will count toward 2023 status however.
2) You don't need to fly 30 segments to get status. However you need that many segments to get the elite choice awards, which some people value quite highly. If you charge $200K on your credit cards and do nothing else you will be EXP. However, status is only valuable to the extent that you fly. Now, hypothetically if you spend $1 million on your credit card and fly a half-dozen transcon trips a year, you would be rather high on the upgrade list (as an EXP with a high 12-month rolling loyalty point total) and the upgrades could be quite worthwhile.

While status and AA miles are certainly nice, you need to consider the value of alternatives for your CC spend. It's not hard to find credit cards giving 2% cash back, so if you spend $1 million on an AA credit card, you have to compare the value of 1 million AA miles and EXP status with the $20K cashback that you could get.
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by redtop43
1) As far as I know, credit card spend does not count toward 2022 status. Status for 2022 is still based on EQD/EQM/EQS, subject to the various promotions offered. The spend will count toward 2023 status however.
2) You don't need to fly 30 segments to get status. However you need that many segments to get the elite choice awards, which some people value quite highly. If you charge $200K on your credit cards and do nothing else you will be EXP. However, status is only valuable to the extent that you fly. Now, hypothetically if you spend $1 million on your credit card and fly a half-dozen transcon trips a year, you would be rather high on the upgrade list (as an EXP with a high 12-month rolling loyalty point total) and the upgrades could be quite worthwhile.

While status and AA miles are certainly nice, you need to consider the value of alternatives for your CC spend. It's not hard to find credit cards giving 2% cash back, so if you spend $1 million on an AA credit card, you have to compare the value of 1 million AA miles and EXP status with the $20K cashback that you could get.
Great summarization. Better information in your post for one to consider going forward than there is in the "Loyalty Points" discussion with its 1400 posts.
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 2:46 pm
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Originally Posted by redtop43
1) As far as I know, credit card spend does not count toward 2022 status. Status for 2022 is still based on EQD/EQM/EQS, subject to the various promotions offered. The spend will count toward 2023 status however.
2) You don't need to fly 30 segments to get status. However you need that many segments to get the elite choice awards, which some people value quite highly. If you charge $200K on your credit cards and do nothing else you will be EXP. However, status is only valuable to the extent that you fly. Now, hypothetically if you spend $1 million on your credit card and fly a half-dozen transcon trips a year, you would be rather high on the upgrade list (as an EXP with a high 12-month rolling loyalty point total) and the upgrades could be quite worthwhile.

While status and AA miles are certainly nice, you need to consider the value of alternatives for your CC spend. It's not hard to find credit cards giving 2% cash back, so if you spend $1 million on an AA credit card, you have to compare the value of 1 million AA miles and EXP status with the $20K cashback that you could get.
Why would CC spend in Jan/Feb not count for 2022? I thought all all spend starting 1/1/2022 counted toward earning LPs for the 2022/2023 Elite year?
It would NOT count for 2021+Jan/Feb 2022 EQM/EQD/EQS scheme, but i don't see why if the OP had $75k of charges on their card post to AA in Jan/Feb 2022 they would not achieve PLT for 2022/2023?

in theory, if you had the limits to do so, couldn't you charge $200k in January and have EXP (with no choice reward) right away for 2022/2023
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 5:55 pm
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Originally Posted by DreAAmliner
Why would CC spend in Jan/Feb not count for 2022? I thought all all spend starting 1/1/2022 counted toward earning LPs for the 2022/2023 Elite year?
It would NOT count for 2021+Jan/Feb 2022 EQM/EQD/EQS scheme, but i don't see why if the OP had $75k of charges on their card post to AA in Jan/Feb 2022 they would not achieve PLT for 2022/2023?

in theory, if you had the limits to do so, couldn't you charge $200k in January and have EXP (with no choice reward) right away for 2022/2023
What you say is true. However, It seemed that the gist of the OP was to use CC spend plus travel during calendar year 2021 to qualify for elite for the period 3/1/22-2/28/23.

Yes, if someone spent $200K on their CC on 1/1/22,they would get EXP for the year 3/1/23-2/29/24, and also from the time the spend posts until 2/29/23. At least as I understand it.
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 8:47 pm
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Originally Posted by redtop43
What you say is true. However, It seemed that the gist of the OP was to use CC spend plus travel during calendar year 2021 to qualify for elite for the period 3/1/22-2/28/23.

Yes, if someone spent $200K on their CC on 1/1/22,they would get EXP for the year 3/1/23-2/29/24, and also from the time the spend posts until 2/29/23. At least as I understand it.
You misunderstand. If someone had $200000 in credit card charges post on 1/1/22 they’d have EXP but not any elite choice benefits and they’d have status through Feb 28, 2023.
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 9:14 pm
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Originally Posted by thatmikereed
You misunderstand. If someone had $200000 in credit card charges post on 1/1/22 they’d have EXP but not any elite choice benefits and they’d have status through Feb 28, 2023.
Wouldn't that earn them EXP for the earnings period 1/1/2022-2/28/2023, effective from the date on which it was earned (1/1/2022) through the end of the following year (2/29/24)?

If they also earned (for the sake of argument) $12K EQD and 80K EQM on 1/1/2022, they would also earn EXP for the earning period 1/1/2021-2/28/2022, commencing on the day earned and expiring at the end of the following year (2/28/2023), and also earning choice awards - but - the Loyalty Points do not apply to the earnings period 1/1/2021-2/28/2022?
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 9:24 pm
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Originally Posted by redtop43
Wouldn't that earn them EXP for the earnings period 1/1/2022-2/28/2023, effective from the date on which it was earned (1/1/2022) through the end of the following year (2/29/24)?

If they also earned (for the sake of argument) $12K EQD and 80K EQM on 1/1/2022, they would also earn EXP for the earning period 1/1/2021-2/28/2022, commencing on the day earned and expiring at the end of the following year (2/28/2023), and also earning choice awards - but - the Loyalty Points do not apply to the earnings period 1/1/2021-2/28/2022?
You are correct.
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Old Jan 6, 2022, 9:41 pm
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Under the new program the qualification year for status will begin on March 1 of each year, so the earliest you can earn status will be on March 1, which would be good through February 28/29 two full years minus one day later. So, starting on March 1, 2022 you can earn status through February 29, 2024, then on March 1, 2023 you can earn status through February 28, 2025.

For 2022 only they will also do a lookback on March 1 to the pervious two months, January 1 through February 28, 2022, and count the Loyalty Points earned for qualification.
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 12:06 am
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I love that they say they wanted to make things easier to understand. I kinda feel like I've been reading Urdu.
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 7:44 am
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Originally Posted by Beckles
Under the new program the qualification year for status will begin on March 1 of each year, so the earliest you can earn status will be on March 1, which would be good through February 28/29 two full years minus one day later. So, starting on March 1, 2022 you can earn status through February 29, 2024, then on March 1, 2023 you can earn status through February 28, 2025.

For 2022 only they will also do a lookback on March 1 to the pervious two months, January 1 through February 28, 2022, and count the Loyalty Points earned for qualification.
I suppose AA is making the assumption that no one will be willing/able to earn enough LPs before 3/1/2022.
And, unless you are brand new to AA starting 1/1/2022, you likely have some type of status from 2020/2021 that lasts until the end of Feb.
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 7:50 am
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Originally Posted by retirementdreams
I love that they say they wanted to make things easier to understand. I kinda feel like I've been reading Urdu.
Completely agree...

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Old Jan 7, 2022, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by DreAAmliner
I suppose AA is making the assumption that no one will be willing/able to earn enough LPs before 3/1/2022.
And, unless you are brand new to AA starting 1/1/2022, you likely have some type of status from 2020/2021 that lasts until the end of Feb.
I think the real problem American had is they didn't want to have two parallel but different paths to elite status for the same period of time (January 1, 2022 through February 28, 2022), instead through February 28, 2022 there is one way to earn elite status (EQD/EQM/EQS), then starting on March 1, 2022 there is a different way to earn elite status (LP). Seems like AA didn't trust themselves they could do both at the same time, it would be like expecting someone to walk and chew gum at the same time, it's just not something that's easily done.
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