guv1976

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mmthomps

Which would make eminent sense, except the email says this:

guv1976

Well now I'm stumped, too.

TYSFlyer865

call AA. They just gave me AA Platinum which is Delta Gold equivalent for the challenge. I also got the AAdvantage Executive card, which is the equivalent to the Delta Reserve. AA sometimes charges for the status challenge, but they waived that for me.

Carolina2Cali

Have a flight tomorrow GSP-CLT-FLL. Booked the 5 am flight because WAY cheaper, but I'd much prefer to fly later in the afternoon.
Booked a backup flight, same route and time, for Monday morning, in case I felt like I didn't have enough family time this weekend.

I'd like to risk same day STANDBY as confirmed is not an option, for the last flight of the day Sunday. I have ExpertFlyer, there's still some seats on both legs. If I DON'T get confirmed for the last flight Sunday, can I still "cancel" my ticket for credit (standard economy) and then use my Monday ticket? Even though I've gone through TSA, gone to the gate agent, etc and will likely be placed on a rolling list? I'll be sad to lose my business upgrade if I DO get the standby to convert but it's only two short flights, I suppose I can manage.

afly

Every time I ask AA questions like this I get misleading or incorrect responses so I appreciate any guidance! I�m Platinum Pro - flying Alaska from LAX to SJD/Cabo - will we have lounge access? We�ll be in economy or premium economy at least as we�re booked (we may upgrade down the line but question is assuming we don�t). Thanks!

TWA884

No.

xtremegene

afly
there is a dedicated thread about these questions too if you want to try your luck/get more targeted responses there: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/2106339-help-desk-will-i-have-lounge-access-access-rules-2023-a.html

IIRC, there may be some outdated/inconsistent info on Admiral Club pages, re: access.
Also on the link that TWA posted (right above the are where the ** is listed), it says for AA EXP, PPro, Plat-

Qualifying international flights**

Flights between the U.S. and:

• Asia
• Australia
• Canada
• Caribbean
• Central America
• Europe
• Mexico
• Middle East
• New Zealand
• South America

thus, it would stand to (my)logic the **exception is probably old outdated info. Or of course the stuff I copy/pasted could be the part wrong 😑

TWA884

"Qualifying international flights" is followed by two asterisks. When you scroll down to the asterisks, it reads: "**Except on flights operated by Alaska Airlines, access is not granted when flying from the United States to Canada, the Caribbean and Mexico."

Do you have anything to corroborate your assertion that this exception is outdated or inconsistent information?

guv1976

(Bolding mine.)

Since afly is flying on AS, shouldn't he have Admirals Club access based on the exception?

afly

it is confusing as it�s worded but I�m thinking not - though OneWorld lounge access I did think was possible but also perhaps not (OW emerald also obviously). It�s a bit confusing - and as a Mom with a small child too much to navigate half the time. And anytime I�ve asked AA directly via chat for other similar questions - I�ve gotten patently incorrect information over and over so I no longer bother. Appreciate the responses! Thank you!

guv1976

I'm pretty sure that you're not entitled to lounge access based on oneworld rules. But based on AA's peculiar wording for Admirals Club access (where AS flights seem to be an exception to the exception), if you want to attempt Admirals Club access, I would print a hard copy of the Admirals Club access rules, highlight the exception for AS flights, and then present that to the Admirals Club lounge dragon if access is refused initially.

Good luck!

xtremegene

No personal info/flying experiences yet on AA to Mexico/Canada/Caribbean-

But some other info/post from June 2023 (in the main Lounge Access thread) that seems to reference footnote SNAFUs etc-
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/35353700-post320.html

TWA884

That reference is to a different footnote: "For a limited time: Starting April 1, 2021, qualifying international flights will include flights between the U.S. and Canada, the Caribbean and Mexico."

The footnote which I quoted is specific to Alaska Airlines, however, it is rather ambiguously worded. afly should definitely try to access the lounge and report back.

JJeffrey

The "Except on flights operated by AS..." footnote is the exact same (wrong) footnote that says you don't get AC access to Canada, Caribbean, or Mexico. It is old, outdated, and needed to be removed the day AA updated the lounge policy to allow any international J access.

In any event, business class on AS to anywhere international should allow AC access, no different than if it was on AA.