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N830MH Nov 27, 2021 1:08 pm

stowaway from Guatemala discovered alive in landing gear well
 
Hey guys!

I heard the news today. AA flight #1182 just arrived at Miami. Came from Guatemala City. A male stowaway was discovered alive in the landing gear. The security at GUA. They didn’t do right! This is very bad security. They didn’t search it and they must be secured the airports.
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fdog Nov 27, 2021 2:27 pm

That's at least a couple of hours hypoxic and frickin freezing...amazed he's alive

All the best, James

N830MH Nov 27, 2021 4:02 pm

All, here’s a link:

the man just arrived in Miami. He came from Guatemala City, Guatemala, not Mexico. I believe the customs will investigate it. I wonder how he got there??? Guatemala security is very bad. They didn’t do right! They didn’t search it! That is problem!

Authorities in Miami investigate whether man came from wheel well of airplane that had just arrived from Mexico

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2...i-from-mexico/

UKtravelbear Nov 27, 2021 5:19 pm

"They didn’t search it and they must be secured the airports"

"Guatemala security is very bad. They didn’t do right! They didn’t search it! That is problem!"

And US security is 100% effective! NOT.

jcatman Nov 27, 2021 8:17 pm

Happened in Miami, you say......?

N830MH Nov 27, 2021 10:43 pm


Originally Posted by jcatman (Post 33764437)
Happened in Miami, you say......?

Yes, they always do. Sometimes they have a problem or trouble at airports. This is only the way.

u01sss3 Nov 28, 2021 8:54 am

I'm surprised and glad he survived. Imagine the desperation he must have felt to try this.
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dhuey Nov 28, 2021 11:26 am

Wow: check out the video in this local news report: https://www.local10.com/news/local/2...i-from-mexico/

The guy not only survived, but he was able to walk a little bit. Reminds me of jumpers from the Golden Gate Bridge. Vast majority perish, but a few somehow defy the grim odds.

bcl00 Nov 29, 2021 12:58 pm

Man survives flight in landing gear from Guatemala to Miami
 
https://www.boston.com/news/national...p_featurestack

When asked why he did it, the man responded, I could not find any availability in sAAver...

enviroian Nov 29, 2021 1:09 pm


Originally Posted by bcl00 (Post 33768900)
https://www.boston.com/news/national...p_featurestack

When asked why he did it, the man responded, I could not find any availability in sAAver...

Love it. My type of humor.

:D

GlobalMatt Nov 29, 2021 1:36 pm


Originally Posted by bcl00 (Post 33768900)
https://www.boston.com/news/national...p_featurestack

When asked why he did it, the man responded, I could not find any availability in sAAver...

This is comedic gold.

enpremiere Nov 29, 2021 3:24 pm

While he was fortunate to survive and I have endless crass cracks about AA's deplorable product, that someone's situation was so miserable to have been driven to expose oneself to the lack of oxygen, pressurization extremes, frigid temperatures, potential gear crush, and fall risk just for a chance at something better is a terrible reflection on the world today.

JDiver Nov 29, 2021 3:48 pm


Originally Posted by fdog (Post 33763720)
That's at least a couple of hours hypoxic and frickin freezing...amazed he's alive

All the best, James

Equivalent available oxygen at 30,000 msl is 6.3%, as opposed to 20.9% at sea level. Anything under 19% isn’t good for human survival. Pretty amazing - and pretty desperate.

enpremiere Nov 29, 2021 5:18 pm

To add to that technical perspective, here is the FAA section that deals with oxygen for sustained flight above FL120:


Sec. 135.89 Pilot requirements: Use of Oxygen.
(a) Unpressurized aircraft. Each pilot of an unpressurized aircraft shall use oxygen
continuously when flying—
(1) At altitudes above 10,000 feet through 12,000 feet MSL for that part of the flight at
those altitudes that is of more than 30 minutes duration; and
(2) Above 12,000 feet MSL.

(b) Pressurized aircraft. (1) Whenever a pressurized aircraft is operated with the cabin
pressure altitude more than 10,000 feet MSL, each pilot shall comply with paragraph (a) of

this section.
(2) Whenever a pressurized aircraft is operated at altitudes above 25,000 feet through 35,000
feet MSL, unless each pilot has an approved quick-donning type oxygen mask–
(i) At least one pilot at the controls shall wear, secured and sealed, an oxygen mask that
either supplies oxygen at all times or automatically supplies oxygen whenever the cabin

pressure altitude exceeds 12,000 feet MSL; and
(ii) During that flight, each other pilot on flight deck duty shall have an oxygen mask,
connected to an oxygen supply, located so as to allow immediate placing of the mask on the

pilot’s face sealed and secured for use.
(3) Whenever a pressurized aircraft is operated at altitudes above 35,000 feet MSL, at
least one pilot at the controls shall wear, secured and sealed, an oxygen mask required by

paragraph(b)(2)(i) of this section.
(4) If one pilot leaves a pilot duty station of an aircraft when operating at altitudes above
25,000 feet MSL, the remaining pilot at the controls shall put on and use an approved

oxygen mask until the other pilot returns to the pilot duty station of the aircraft.

§91.211 Supplemental oxygen.
(a) General. No person may operate a civil aircraft of U.S. registry—

1) At cabin pressure altitudes above 12,500 feet (MSL) up to and including 14,000 feet
(MSL) unless the required minimum flight crew is provided with and uses supplemental

oxygen for that part of the flight at those altitudes that is of more than 30 minutes duration;
(2) At cabin pressure altitudes above 14,000 feet (MSL) unless the required minimum flight
crew is provided with and uses supplemental oxygen during the entire flight time at those

altitudes; and
(3) At cabin pressure altitudes above 15,000 feet (MSL) unless each occupant of the aircraft
is provided with supplemental oxygen.
(b) Pressurized cabin aircraft. (1) No person may operate a civil aircraft of U.S. registry with
a pressurized cabin—
(i) At flight altitudes above flight level 250 unless at least a 10-minute supply of
supplemental oxygen, in addition to any oxygen required to satisfy paragraph (a) of this

section, is available for each occupant of the aircraft for use in the event that a descent is

necessitated by loss of cabin pressurization; and
(ii) At flight altitudes above flight level 350 unless one pilot at the controls of the airplane
is wearing and using an oxygen mask that is secured and sealed and that either supplies

oxygen at all times or automatically supplies oxygen whenever the cabin pressure altitude of

the airplane exceeds 14,000 feet (MSL), except that the one pilot need not wear and use an

oxygen mask while at or below flight level 410 if there are two pilots at the controls and each

pilot has a quick-donning type of oxygen mask that can be placed on the face with one hand

from the ready position within 5 seconds, supplying oxygen and properly secured and sealed.
(2) Notwithstanding paragraph (b)(1)(ii) of this section, if for any reason at any time it is

necessary for one pilot to leave the controls of the aircraft when operating at flight altitudes

above flight level 350, the remaining pilot at the controls shall put on and use an oxygen

mask until the other pilot has returned to that crewmember’s station.

GlobalMatt Nov 30, 2021 2:00 pm


Originally Posted by enpremiere (Post 33769284)
...is a terrible reflection on the world today.

And unfortunately quite an accurate one. The Holocaust is now "under debate" in Texas schools, but this part of the convo is for OMNI.


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