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Does LIfetime Gold mean anything any more?

Old Oct 27, 21, 3:45 pm
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Originally Posted by ChurnieEls View Post
It'd be like 16 stickers RT or so though, I doubt you'd find too many GL/PLs willing to pay $600+ for the upgrade if they don't have them already and have booked a Y class flight which tend to be expensive in and of themselves.
The fares to Hawaii this year have been extremely low. DFW to major airports in HI available this spring on multiple dates for as low as $198 round trip on AA and others. Even less from the west coast. A friend of mine flew LAX-OGG round trip on AA for $158. Even now, with fares on AA as low as the mid 400s from DFW it seems dirt cheap for 7,40O miles of flying.

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Old Oct 27, 21, 3:47 pm
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Originally Posted by dogcanyon View Post
The fares to Hawaii this year have been extremely low. DFW to major airports in HI available this spring on multiple dates for as low as $198 round trip on AA and others. Even less from the west coast. A friend of mine flex LAX-OGG round trip on AA for $158. Even now, with fares on AA as low as the mid 400s from DFW it seems dirt cheap for 7,40O miles of flying.
It is. That's why the new program focuses on revenue vs. miles.
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Old Oct 27, 21, 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by thatmikereed View Post
It is. That's why the new program focuses on revenue vs. miles.
So is AA losing money on those flights, or their operating expenses have never been lower?
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Old Oct 27, 21, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by lsquare View Post
So is AA losing money on those flights, or their operating expenses have never been lower?
Their profit margin on selling credit card companies miles is higher than flying people around. For many airports, if they don't fly, they lose their slots, too.
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Old Oct 27, 21, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by miles_navigator View Post
Are 500 mile "sticker" upgrades (that never clear unless you take the Sunday morning 5AM flight) still available to Golds in the new system?
I never had any issues using these and I am LT Gold as well.
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Old Oct 28, 21, 4:31 am
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Originally Posted by thatmikereed View Post
You won't have lounge access to domestic lounges on domestic flights in the US. Did you mean international lounge access?
Yes. I could not care less about domestic travel. Which is why I do value lifetim platinum.

Pier/Bridge access at HKG - I take that.
Al Mourjan access at DOH - I take that.
CX Lounge access at LHR - I take that.
Free bags? Thank you.

For me personally - that's value when not travelling in J/F.
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Old Oct 28, 21, 5:08 am
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Originally Posted by ckx2 View Post
Yes. I could not care less about domestic travel. Which is why I do value lifetim platinum.
Most of AAs fliers and flights are domestic-only. Especially now, youre not their target market.
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Old Oct 28, 21, 5:47 am
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For not being their target market, they sure do hand me CK frequently.
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Old Oct 28, 21, 6:13 am
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Originally Posted by ckx2 View Post
For not being their target market, they sure do hand me CK frequently.
That pretty much confirms it. Youre not the target market for their Loyalty Program because they have a different program for you.

This is targeted at the folks below CK, all the way down to members who can hit/get Gold.
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Old Oct 28, 21, 10:36 am
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I have benefitted from LT gold in the sense it releases one from the requirement to hold an AA credit card for bags, boarding, provides Priority Access (less value now with TSA pre-check and Clear), and generally makes a MCE seat available at check-in if one is diligent about timing.

I have also been decently lucky on upgrades as Gold, especially LAX-LAS-LAX (no cost) and even LAX-JFK on occasion.

However, to the OP's point, I also expect the relatively easy opportunity to earn Gold (or higher) through credit card spend will make the scarcer benefits of LT Gold even more elusive, so the value of LT status certainly appears to be diminishing.
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Old Oct 28, 21, 10:42 am
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Originally Posted by NYC Flyer View Post
However, to the OP's point, I also expect the relatively easy opportunity to earn Gold (or higher) through credit card spend will make the scarcer benefits of LT Gold even more elusive, so the value of LT status certainly appears to be diminishing.
I don't understand this. First, there is absolutely no difference (as far as benefits) between GLD and LT GLD.
If it is easier to get GLD than before, how does that affect LT Golds?
The benefits are the same.
Perhaps the upgrade chances will be even lower, but I don't think anybody here appreciates LT Gold because of the upgrade success rate.
I really don't understand how LT Gold value is being diluted if the benefits have not changed at all.
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Old Oct 28, 21, 10:47 am
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I was upgraded as a gold quite often during covid. The upgrade success was most prominent if I avoided DFW, flew on Eagle flights, and flew on tuesday, wednesday, and saturday. Those upgrade benefits seem fewer now, and I've made it to PPro, but I am still occasionally on flights that have empty first class seats or first class seats that go to non-revs. The free checked bag benefit is awesome. It can save a lot of money for those that travel with bags. There seems to always be good main cabin extra seats available, even at check-in. That's a really cool benefit too. So no, gold is not worthless. If one is expecting to be upgraded a lot, then it might not seem that special. Honestly, regular economy seats are so terrible now that the main cabin extra benefit is pretty good. A main cabin extra seat is so much more bearable, especially in the exit row.
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Old Oct 28, 21, 11:00 am
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Originally Posted by carlosdca View Post
Perhaps the upgrade chances will be even lower, but I don't think anybody here appreciates LT Gold because of the upgrade success rate.
I really don't understand how LT Gold value is being diluted if the benefits have not changed at all.
I expect more people competing for the scarce benefits (MCE at checkin, upgrades)....the value of LT gold is diluted to me if the frequency of these working out declines.
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Old Oct 28, 21, 11:27 am
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I cannot remember a flight where there was not a decent MCE seat available at T-24.
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Old Oct 28, 21, 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by NYC Flyer View Post
I expect more people competing for the scarce benefits (MCE at checkin, upgrades)....the value of LT gold is diluted to me if the frequency of these working out declines.
You are assuming that the pool of GLDs will be larger enough to make a significant impact.
There is absolutely no certainty that that will happen. So as it is, you are making conclusions based on a highly speculative premise.

It is not that ominous. Let's touch base in a year and see if those MCE seats become elusive (the only benefit that I see impacted by a larger GLD pool). The rest remains the same, no dilution so far.
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