Dec 17, 2021, 11:25 am
Last edit by: jbeckett
American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!
Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage
How many LPs do I need for elite status?
How do I earn LPs?
Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.
AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $
Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)
* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.
So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.
A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.
Earning chart for QR
Here's a great online LP calculator:
https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/
AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints
There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:
BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.
SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.
AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.
Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.
Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard
What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.
These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.
Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.
Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler℠ status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.
Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage
How many LPs do I need for elite status?
Code:
Gold: 40K Platinum: 75K Plat Pro: 125K EXP: 200K
Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.
AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $
Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)
* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.
So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.
A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.
Earning chart for QR
Here's a great online LP calculator:
https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/
AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints
There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:
BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.
SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.
AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
- A separate thread exists to discuss the AAdvantage eShopping portal
- Another thread exists to discuss using the portal for a particular merchant, giftcards.com
- For additional questions about buying and using gift cards, refer to the separate Manufactured Spending forum.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.
Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.
Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard
What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.
These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.
Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.
Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler℠ status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.
Loyalty Points discussion/questions - From 2022 now used for determining elite status
May 5, 2022, 2:58 am
#3167
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP, Hyatt Glob, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Plat, Total Wine & More Reserve
Posts: 4,483
In my experience I haven't had to wait that long, but some have taken over a month or so before posting.
May 5, 2022, 5:06 pm
#3168
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Santa Barbara, CA, Park City, UT
Programs: AA EXP, Delta Plat, Marriott Plat,Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat
Posts: 901
Fuel Rewards and AA travel earning
I linked my AA account with Fuel Rewards and attached my gas credit card(in my name) and my wifes gas card(in her name) on 1/30/22. Since I've probably fueled up between us about 7-8 times starting first week Feb using those cards. To date I see no loyalty points earned. Has anyone on her set this up for earning-seems very easy way to earn LPs. Are you yet seeing points in your acccounts? Any ideas what I could have done wrong? The only issue in my account I see is my address wasn't in my profile-shows as required yet somehow I was able to create an account without it, or it went away some how.
Also I did book travel first week in June prepaid in AA travel. Done in Feb iirc. Should I be seeing LPs due to prepaid nature of the reservation? Or will I see sometime after the stay? What's the time frame for receiving the LPs after a stay if the latter.
Also I did book travel first week in June prepaid in AA travel. Done in Feb iirc. Should I be seeing LPs due to prepaid nature of the reservation? Or will I see sometime after the stay? What's the time frame for receiving the LPs after a stay if the latter.
May 5, 2022, 6:14 pm
#3169
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, HH DIA, Hertz PC, GE + Pre✓, Amazon Super Special Prime
Posts: 1,008
I linked my AA account with Fuel Rewards and attached my gas credit card(in my name) and my wifes gas card(in her name) on 1/30/22. Since I've probably fueled up between us about 7-8 times starting first week Feb using those cards. To date I see no loyalty points earned. Has anyone on her set this up for earning-seems very easy way to earn LPs. Are you yet seeing points in your acccounts? Any ideas what I could have done wrong? The only issue in my account I see is my address wasn't in my profile-shows as required yet somehow I was able to create an account without it, or it went away some how.
Also I did book travel first week in June prepaid in AA travel. Done in Feb iirc. Should I be seeing LPs due to prepaid nature of the reservation? Or will I see sometime after the stay? What's the time frame for receiving the LPs after a stay if the latter.
Also I did book travel first week in June prepaid in AA travel. Done in Feb iirc. Should I be seeing LPs due to prepaid nature of the reservation? Or will I see sometime after the stay? What's the time frame for receiving the LPs after a stay if the latter.
I did, had to log in, and then select AA miles as the rewards (2mi/GAL) as opposed to cents off your next fill up. Has been posting to my AA account regularly since then.
LP's will be after the travel.
May 5, 2022, 6:22 pm
#3170
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Miami, FL
Programs: UA 1MM, AA Plat, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Glob, IHG ♢ Amb, Hilton ♢, Hertz Pres
Posts: 6,015
Right. That seems an absurdly long time to wait for mileage credit. 90 days post checkout? Why so long? Marriott obviously gives us points for stays much quicker. So they have the info. They can't pass it to Cartera at least monthly?
May 5, 2022, 6:33 pm
#3171
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Santa Barbara, CA, Park City, UT
Programs: AA EXP, Delta Plat, Marriott Plat,Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat
Posts: 901
so you get one or other. Hmm, didn’t realize
May 5, 2022, 6:47 pm
#3173
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Santa Barbara, CA, Park City, UT
Programs: AA EXP, Delta Plat, Marriott Plat,Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat
Posts: 901
I should have read the Fuel rewards post on TPG, that one I missed.
Last edited by Jonesdds; May 5, 2022 at 8:25 pm
May 5, 2022, 9:25 pm
#3174
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, HH DIA, Hertz PC, GE + Pre✓, Amazon Super Special Prime
Posts: 1,008
I usually pass a Costco on my way to work in the morning - would fill up when it is not too busy w/ long lines and earn 4% CB with the Costco Visa. I'd guess 60% of my fuel is Costco purchased.
But when traveling elsewhere, or not inclined to wait 20 minutes in line at Costco during peak times, Shell staions are a dime a dozen and the extra 2mi per gallon doesn't hurt.
I found 1 more stacking opportunity though:
- Order product from Advanced Auto Parts via AA eShopping, earn miles on main purchase. (I happen to spend a fair bit of $ at this store due to a truck fleet that I run)
- Sign up for their reward program, and you can earn $$ coupons for the store + you can earn Advanced Auto Parts gas rewards (account linking to main Fuel Reward account required)
- Use gas rewards from Advanced Auto to defray cost premium of Shell stations vs. other gas stations - I usually cash out when I have ~$.40/gallon saved up, or if they are due to expire.
- Get whatever CC rewards for gas station purchase + 2/mi per gallon from FR.
So, for me Shell is a very viable alternative to what others might choose as more "affordable" options for gas purchases.
May 5, 2022, 10:38 pm
#3175
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
For me, the Shell option is more convenient sometimes.
I usually pass a Costco on my way to work in the morning - would fill up when it is not too busy w/ long lines and earn 4% CB with the Costco Visa. I'd guess 60% of my fuel is Costco purchased.
But when traveling elsewhere, or not inclined to wait 20 minutes in line at Costco during peak times, Shell staions are a dime a dozen and the extra 2mi per gallon doesn't hurt.
I found 1 more stacking opportunity though:
So, for me Shell is a very viable alternative to what others might choose as more "affordable" options for gas purchases.
I usually pass a Costco on my way to work in the morning - would fill up when it is not too busy w/ long lines and earn 4% CB with the Costco Visa. I'd guess 60% of my fuel is Costco purchased.
But when traveling elsewhere, or not inclined to wait 20 minutes in line at Costco during peak times, Shell staions are a dime a dozen and the extra 2mi per gallon doesn't hurt.
I found 1 more stacking opportunity though:
- Order product from Advanced Auto Parts via AA eShopping, earn miles on main purchase. (I happen to spend a fair bit of $ at this store due to a truck fleet that I run)
- Sign up for their reward program, and you can earn $$ coupons for the store + you can earn Advanced Auto Parts gas rewards (account linking to main Fuel Reward account required)
- Use gas rewards from Advanced Auto to defray cost premium of Shell stations vs. other gas stations - I usually cash out when I have ~$.40/gallon saved up, or if they are due to expire.
- Get whatever CC rewards for gas station purchase + 2/mi per gallon from FR.
So, for me Shell is a very viable alternative to what others might choose as more "affordable" options for gas purchases.
I guess for me, my gas tank takes 15 gallons and I fill up maybe once a week. Even if I filled up at Shell every time that would be 30 miles per week. 1560 miles / year. That's basically nothing.
Realistically I'm at Costco a fair bit and when I'm there I fill up there. So maybe I would fill up at Shell half the time. So maybe 800 miles a year. That's not even worth the effort of signing up, even if Shell was competitively priced (which they are not)
May 6, 2022, 5:14 am
#3176
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,546
If you are a T-Mobile customer you can get a code for 10-15 cents off per gallon at Shell, limited to one 20-gallon fill up per week. This blows the 2 AA mile per gallon offer out of the water yet is still barely worth the time it takes to sign up. Especially if your Shell is priced 10 cents higher than the other-brand station across the street.
May 6, 2022, 4:46 pm
#3177
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Annapolis, MD
Posts: 483
New PPro here just booked some flights with a companion and saw that I need to deposit 500 milers to upgrade them. I know they go away "later this year" whenever that is. But until then, do I have this right that as a PPro I won't earn 500 milers but will have to buy them to upgrade a companion, while if I had remained a Plat or Gold I would still be earning them? And none of us need them for ourselves anymore? That seems backwards if it is the case.
May 6, 2022, 5:13 pm
#3178
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Hawaii & Texas
Programs: AA ExPlat / LT Plat / 3MM, Delta Plat, Bonvoy LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 1,109
New PPro here just booked some flights with a companion and saw that I need to deposit 500 milers to upgrade them. I know they go away "later this year" whenever that is. But until then, do I have this right that as a PPro I won't earn 500 milers but will have to buy them to upgrade a companion, while if I had remained a Plat or Gold I would still be earning them? And none of us need them for ourselves anymore? That seems backwards if it is the case.
My spouse made PPro last year so we could quit buying stickers, only to find out the program will be ending. I'm EXP so she'll probably just maintain Platinum.
May 6, 2022, 8:03 pm
#3179
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Annapolis, MD
Posts: 483
Yes. Also, use expert flyer to see how many F seats are available. AA will sell you the stickers, even if there are no seats available. So use your best guess as to upgrade likelihood.
My spouse made PPro last year so we could quit buying stickers, only to find out the program will be ending. I'm EXP so she'll probably just maintain Platinum.
My spouse made PPro last year so we could quit buying stickers, only to find out the program will be ending. I'm EXP so she'll probably just maintain Platinum.
May 10, 2022, 1:13 pm
#3180
Join Date: May 2014
Location: LAX | BUR
Posts: 34
If Miles for Opinions counts, I wonder if e-Rewards transfers count too since they're under the same parent company. If it does, max out on the 24K you can get from e-rewards n a year and do a little with Miles for Opinions and it's not hard (though it takes a little time) to get to 30K LPs without any cash spent.
Wondering if anyone has found out about e-rewards. I searched but I couldn't find any updates.
