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Oct 2021 announcement: Loyalty Points coming in 2022 for determining elite status

Oct 2021 announcement: Loyalty Points coming in 2022 for determining elite status

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American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!

Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage

How many LPs do I need for elite status?


Code:
Gold:       30K
 Platinum:   75K
 Plat Pro:  125K
 EXP:       200K
How do I earn LPs?

Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.

AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $

Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)

* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.

So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.

A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.

Earning chart for QR

Here's a great online LP calculator:

https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/

AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints

There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:

BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.

SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.

AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through from this portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com. If bonus miles are offered for a particular merchant, such as an increase from 2 miles per dollar to 10 miles per dollar, you earn that amount in redeemable miles and an equal amount of loyalty points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, enrollment bonus, or threshold spending bonus, you only earn redeemable miles for this and not loyalty points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.

Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.

Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard

What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.

These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.

Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.

Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.





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Old Mar 23, 22, 8:54 pm
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If you earn miles for a portal-wide activity you will earn redeemable miles but no loyalty points. For example 1000 miles for first time enrollment, for installing a portal plugin, or special offers for meeting a portal-wide spending threshold.

If you earn miles for purchasing from a specific merchant you’ll earn miles and an equal amount of loyalty points. It doesn’t matter if the offer is temporarily increased or if it’s a fixed number per purchase.
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Old Mar 24, 22, 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler View Post
That's because some of the trackers are being blocked and some aren't. It's not the same for all merchants.
blocked how? I use Google Chrome without any ad blockers and with all cookies disabled. I do not use Google Chrome for anything else, just online shopping via Cartera (or cash back, depending). Nothing is being blocked via my browser. Absolutely nothing.
For all other web surfing I use an alternate browser leaving Chrome, wide open to track everything (which is what I want since I solely use it for shopping where I want to be tracked).
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Old Mar 24, 22, 4:48 pm
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Old Mar 25, 22, 6:58 am
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Originally Posted by TravelinSperry View Post
blocked how? I use Google Chrome without any ad blockers and with all cookies disabled. I do not use Google Chrome for anything else, just online shopping via Cartera (or cash back, depending). Nothing is being blocked via my browser. Absolutely nothing.
For all other web surfing I use an alternate browser leaving Chrome, wide open to track everything (which is what I want since I solely use it for shopping where I want to be tracked).
TLDR answer, some sites use cookies to track purchases so if you have all cookies disabled you're blocking those sites from tracking you.

Longer answer, you can't actually block all cookies in Chrome, cookies are the only way to maintain state. That means the only way a site can know you are you after you log in or track what you've put in a shopping cart or what affiliate link you used to get to the ultimate checkout page. There are different levels and types of cookies, best practice is to use session variables for that but it's not always possible if you're using a third party affiliate tracking system and coincidentally third party cookies are generally the main thing you're blocking when you "disable cookies". So if you want to maximize you chances of a transaction tracking all the way through, you would absolutely want to have all cookies enabled not disabled. Note that there are other reasons that tracking doesn't work, for example if you try to use a coupon the coupon site generally overwrites their own tracking and they end up being paid, not the shopping portal. Or it could be something you can't control, like your internet service provider switches your IP address and the tracking system is using a combination of a tracking cookie and your IP address. Bottom line is that there are dozens of ways for tracking to fail, none of which is in the control of the shopping portal. Again, I lived this dream running one of these until I had to shut it down because all the failed tracking made it untenable.
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Old Mar 25, 22, 9:50 am
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LP for Carrier-Imposed Fees on Award Travel?

Forgive me if this has shown up elsewhere in the thread, but I couldn't seem to find if via search...

If I book award travel via AA, and I pay carrier-imposed fees, will I receive LPs for payment of those fees? I understand that LPs are tied to mileage earned, and that no mileage is earned for Award travel, but LPs are really tied to revenue, and carrier-imposed fees are certainly revenue (especially for BA!)

Example: R/T AUS-LHR booked via Award in Business on BA metal has $1400 in carrier-imposed fees. Are LPs earned for payment of those fees?
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Old Mar 25, 22, 10:13 am
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GiftCards.com - FYI, I just received an email for 10% off virtual Visa gift cards. The code is SURPRISESALE and it's good for up to 3 cards. Not sure if this will cause the shopping portal to reject awarding LPs but thought I'd share since it's a pretty good deal.
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Old Mar 25, 22, 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by maxwellh View Post
Forgive me if this has shown up elsewhere in the thread, but I couldn't seem to find if via search...

If I book award travel via AA, and I pay carrier-imposed fees, will I receive LPs for payment of those fees? I understand that LPs are tied to mileage earned, and that no mileage is earned for Award travel, but LPs are really tied to revenue, and carrier-imposed fees are certainly revenue (especially for BA!)

Example: R/T AUS-LHR booked via Award in Business on BA metal has $1400 in carrier-imposed fees. Are LPs earned for payment of those fees?
Did they earn RDM last year? The answer is the same.
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Old Mar 25, 22, 11:59 am
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Originally Posted by CG View Post
some sites use cookies to track purchases so if you have all cookies disabled you're blocking those sites from tracking you.
Also, some merchants have a popup when first arriving at their website asking to accept cookies.

On one of them I ignored the popup and went ahead and made a purchase and noticed that it didn't track on the shopping portal.

I tried going back and making another purchase, but first accepted cookies when getting to the merchant website. The subsequent purchase was tracked on the portal.
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Old Mar 25, 22, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by OskiBear View Post
GiftCards.com - FYI, I just received an email for 10% off virtual Visa gift cards. The code is SURPRISESALE and it's good for up to 3 cards. Not sure if this will cause the shopping portal to reject awarding LPs but thought I'd share since it's a pretty good deal.
I got this email too... couldn't find an expiration date though, could you? I am maxed out at $2k already for March, so ideally I would wait until April 1st.

Unrelated: as a data point, my Visa GC purchases have been processing and posting as LPs very timely - within a day or two.
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Old Mar 25, 22, 1:53 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler View Post
Did they earn RDM last year? The answer is the same.
I was first going to answer that I had no idea if they did last year or not, because I didn't book any award travel last year, but I'm guessing that this is just a clever way of saying "No."

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Old Mar 25, 22, 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by maxwellh View Post
I was first going to answer that I had no idea if they did last year or not, because I didn't book any award travel last year, but I'm guessing that this is just a clever way of saying "No."
No I honestly don't know. I strongly suspect that they don't but I've never used miles for an airline that charges those BS fees so I can't be sure.

And by "last year", I really mean since they went to revenue-based RDM.
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Old Mar 25, 22, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Mr. BoH View Post
I got this email too... couldn't find an expiration date though, could you? I am maxed out at $2k already for March, so ideally I would wait until April 1st.

Unrelated: as a data point, my Visa GC purchases have been processing and posting as LPs very timely - within a day or two.
Looks like it's only through 3/26/2022 according to the fine print on the email I received.
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Old Mar 25, 22, 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by OskiBear View Post
GiftCards.com - FYI, I just received an email for 10% off virtual Visa gift cards. The code is SURPRISESALE and it's good for up to 3 cards. Not sure if this will cause the shopping portal to reject awarding LPs but thought I'd share since it's a pretty good deal.
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Old Mar 26, 22, 4:32 pm
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Anyone have experience booking an AA ticket with partner-marketed segments? If so did you get LP based on the price paid or the partner earnings chart?
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Old Mar 26, 22, 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by aau View Post
Anyone have experience booking an AA ticket with partner-marketed segments? If so did you get LP based on the price paid or the partner earnings chart?
Not since AA switched to LPs. But prior to that I earned EQM/EQD according to the partner earning charts on partner-marketed segments, even on AA tickets.
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