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Old Dec 17, 2021, 11:25 am
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American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!

Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage

How many LPs do I need for elite status?


Code:
Gold:       40K
Platinum:   75K
Plat Pro:  125K
EXP:       200K
How do I earn LPs?

Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.

AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $

Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)

* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.

So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.

A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.

Earning chart for QR

Here's a great online LP calculator:

https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/

AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints

There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:

BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.

SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.

AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.

Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.

Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard

What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.

These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.

Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.

Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.











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Old Mar 3, 2022, 7:37 am
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Originally Posted by ceebee100
I don’t see anything related to segments under my promotions tab or anywhere else for that matter. Maybe it’s like the Loyalty Points and gets updated in batches.
Probably. I should note that they have not included the segments which I flew in Jan/Feb. Here is what it looks like - at the very bottom of my promotions tab:

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Old Mar 3, 2022, 7:58 am
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Data Point FWIW:

A mid-Jan purchase eligible for a SimplyMiles offer that i added to my MC hit today.
RDM and LPs are correctly reflecting.
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Old Mar 3, 2022, 8:08 am
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Originally Posted by DreAAmliner
Data Point FWIW:

A mid-Jan purchase eligible for a SimplyMiles offer that i added to my MC hit today.
RDM and LPs are correctly reflecting.
Same here (it was the long overdue miles from Byte, for me). Happy to say everything with the LP rollout has gone as smoothly as possible for me so far.
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Old Mar 3, 2022, 8:10 am
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Originally Posted by LlamaJesus
Same here (it was the long overdue miles from Byte, for me). Happy to say everything with the LP rollout has gone as smoothly as possible for me so far.
Ha! Byte for me too! was getting worried i was going to have to deal with the SM black box of customer service....
Now just waiting on two FTD 20x purchases....

My personal LP rollout has been uneventful. I'm developing survivor's remorse watching this thread.
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Old Mar 3, 2022, 8:10 am
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My LPs posted 1000 higher than my spreadsheet expected. The only thing I can think of is they didn’t deduct the 1000 point babylist clawback.
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Old Mar 3, 2022, 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by DreAAmliner
Data Point FWIW:

A mid-Jan purchase eligible for a SimplyMiles offer that i added to my MC hit today.
RDM and LPs are correctly reflecting.
I did just notice that the SimplyMiles posting is a tad strange.

It posted as "Promotion Bonus":
Award Miles 0
Base miles 0
Bonus miles 0
Loyalty Points 4,650

Yet i did get RDMs for it. I'm sure they will eventually get the IT gremlins sorted out.
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Old Mar 3, 2022, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by DreAAmliner
I did just notice that the SimplyMiles posting is a tad strange.

It posted as "Promotion Bonus":
Award Miles 0
Base miles 0
Bonus miles 0
Loyalty Points 4,650

Yet i did get RDMs for it. I'm sure they will eventually get the IT gremlins sorted out.
I've had a "Promotions bonus" now on each of March 1, 2, and 3. It seems to be the LPs for the straggler postings from late February as they post.
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Old Mar 3, 2022, 8:28 am
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This thread is so unmanageable that I can't find the original post, and it's so laggy with the autoscroll feature that I can't really even try, but at some point someone was on here chastising folks for complaining about the rollout. I'm now on the phone with reservations & customer support and they can't even update new status levels for multiple days because of the change over. How does this seem remotely acceptable - all of these derivative problems of the system being rolled out? Why was this not beta tested and made fully operational behind the scenes, then just lift the curtains once everything was tested?

That people are proud of or happy with how AA rolled out these changes speaks to how low expectations are of AA IT.
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Old Mar 3, 2022, 8:33 am
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Originally Posted by DreAAmliner
Data Point FWIW:

A mid-Jan purchase eligible for a SimplyMiles offer that i added to my MC hit today.
RDM and LPs are correctly reflecting.
Originally Posted by LlamaJesus
Same here (it was the long overdue miles from Byte, for me). Happy to say everything with the LP rollout has gone as smoothly as possible for me so far.
Yeah, Byte just posted for me as well.
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Old Mar 3, 2022, 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by FlyingFromNY
You're lucky all your LP posted though, only 1/4 of mine did, also showing as gold status. Your status will probably be corrected in a day or less.
Good: My missing LP points posted today and my status is correctly assigned. I had been missing roughly 75% of my points.

Bad: I don't see a segment tracker for the loyalty choice rewards and the AA app is not displaying my miles correctly despite refreshing. The AA website however does display my miles correctly.
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Old Mar 3, 2022, 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by FlyingFromNY
Good: My missing LP points posted today and my status is correctly assigned. I had been missing roughly 75% of my points.

Bad: I don't see a segment tracker for the loyalty choice rewards and the AA app is not displaying my miles correctly despite refreshing. The AA website however does display my miles correctly.
I've had to log out of the app and log back in to refresh new changes.
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Old Mar 3, 2022, 8:45 am
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OK, it's March 3, where are all of the disappointed and frustrated people who got screwed by AA? Where's everyone who "wasted" their money on meal kits and wine? There were several who were quite sure we were all going to get screwed. Are you all going to be buying wine now too?
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Old Mar 3, 2022, 8:46 am
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Someone reported about being 1k points ahead, and yup, same exact thing for me; 1000 LPs ahead, exactly. I was thinking it had to be the Babylist claw for me too.
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Old Mar 3, 2022, 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by DreAAmliner
I did just notice that the SimplyMiles posting is a tad strange.

It posted as "Promotion Bonus":
Award Miles 0
Base miles 0
Bonus miles 0
Loyalty Points 4,650

Yet i did get RDMs for it. I'm sure they will eventually get the IT gremlins sorted out.
If you scroll back to the date of your purchase (mine was January 4th or something like that), you'll see a separate truncation that gives just the RDM. I think AA is separating all transactions like this because they still need to give the "old" elite qualifying metrics for activities in January and February. I think starting in a few days things will start posting more normally, though. But we'll see.
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Old Mar 3, 2022, 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by LlamaJesus
If you scroll back to the date of your purchase (mine was January 4th or something like that), you'll see a separate truncation that gives just the RDM. I think AA is separating all transactions like this because they still need to give the "old" elite qualifying metrics for activities in January and February. I think starting in a few days things will start posting more normally, though. But we'll see.
Great catch.
100% correct.
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