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Old Dec 17, 2021, 11:25 am
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American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!

Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage

How many LPs do I need for elite status?


Code:
Gold:       40K
Platinum:   75K
Plat Pro:  125K
EXP:       200K
How do I earn LPs?

Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.

AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $

Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)

* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.

So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.

A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.

Earning chart for QR

Here's a great online LP calculator:

https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/

AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints

There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:

BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.

SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.

AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.

Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.

Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard

What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.

These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.

Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.

Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.











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Old Mar 1, 2022, 6:02 am
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Originally Posted by PlanesGoVroom
From AA's earn miles page: "You can earn a maximum of 75,000 AAdvantage® miles per ticket."
I assume this means a max of 75k LP per ticket then.
I wouldn't be so sure of that.

Originally Posted by PlanesGoVroom
Anyone know what 'ticket' means here? Is a roundtrip a ticket? Just the outbound? Each leg of the outbound?
A ticket is a single ticket number.
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Old Mar 1, 2022, 6:05 am
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Sorry if this belongs in the newb thread but a bit annoyed (perhaps with myself). Spent enough on my AA biz cards to hit EXP going from zero status. Any chance my LPs will show up before this weekend or anyone I can call to confirm I should be EXP now based on spend?
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Old Mar 1, 2022, 6:06 am
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Shouldn't the travel we did in January and February result in loyalty points? My balance is 0.
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Old Mar 1, 2022, 6:12 am
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Mine also shows EXP achieved (This is at least true as I did generate sufficient loyalty points in Jan and Feb to requalify for EXP) but like other also shows that I have zero loyalty points in the counter. Weird.
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Old Mar 1, 2022, 6:12 am
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Originally Posted by PlanesGoVroom
From AA's earn miles page: "You can earn a maximum of 75,000 AAdvantage® miles per ticket."
I assume this means a max of 75k LP per ticket then.
I would assume that miles are still miles. AAdvantage miles aren't going away
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Old Mar 1, 2022, 6:23 am
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Is there any trick to view miles activity in a tabular format with a base and bonus column still? Each activity is a separate clickable bubble, meaning lots of time consuming clicks (as shown in Amil's screenshot.) Did AA test this with any non-employee?
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Old Mar 1, 2022, 6:24 am
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Originally Posted by vasantn
Well, that was ... unexciting. Gotta get some Zs now. Hopefully we'll wake up to a new world!
I slept early like a baby at 1030pm est as I had gone on a long bike ride on Sunday and was still feeling tired on Mon after a full workday. A new world indeed with "Loyalty points 0"😂😂
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Old Mar 1, 2022, 6:33 am
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Originally Posted by bcpoinciana
Any chance my LPs will show up before this weekend or anyone I can call to confirm I should be EXP now based on spend?
Oh, please do try to call today, and let us all know how that works for you! 🤣🤣🤣

It's a good question though --- I'd be curious if AA could actually tell someone their LPs today, even though the system is posting "0".
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Old Mar 1, 2022, 6:35 am
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Originally Posted by NotHamSarnie
Shouldn't the travel we did in January and February result in loyalty points? My balance is 0.
Originally Posted by davecraze
Mine also shows EXP achieved (This is at least true as I did generate sufficient loyalty points in Jan and Feb to requalify for EXP) but like other also shows that I have zero loyalty points in the counter. Weird.
Same
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Old Mar 1, 2022, 6:44 am
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Originally Posted by rrgg
Is there any trick to view miles activity in a tabular format with a base and bonus column still? Each activity is a separate clickable bubble, meaning lots of time consuming clicks (as shown in Amil's screenshot.) Did AA test this with any non-employee?
Web page designers today seem to a have a obsession with tile-based interfaces that look decent but have terrible user functionality. It's awful.
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Old Mar 1, 2022, 6:54 am
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Originally Posted by vasantn
I wouldn't be so sure of that.[/color]

A ticket is a single ticket number.
If each dollar spent on a ticket = 1 mile or 1LP , then an EXP spending $7500+ on a business class flight from US to AUS would earn a max of 75k instead of the 7500 * 11 (EXP status bonus). Or am I missing something?
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Old Mar 1, 2022, 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by bcpoinciana
...Spent enough on my AA biz cards to hit EXP going from zero status...
If i was spending $200k in 2 months, not sure i would be too worried about airline status!
However, to answer your question AA's website says "Loyalty Points earned from eligible activity during January and February 2022 will appear in your account in early March 2022."
https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...=newaadvantage
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Old Mar 1, 2022, 7:00 am
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well, here is a fun one. In early January, I booked flights using miles. So, the activity should show up as using miles (i.e. a minus miles).
Instead, under miles it shows a positive number of miles and base miles equal to what I spent for the flight.
My total current miles are correct but in the new interface it looks like I "earned" the miles rather than "paid" them
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Old Mar 1, 2022, 7:05 am
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Originally Posted by Uzzar
If i was spending $200k in 2 months, not sure i would be too worried about airline status!
However, to answer your question AA's website says "Loyalty Points earned from eligible activity during January and February 2022 will appear in your account in early March 2022."
https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...=newaadvantage
Well it’s all true business spend. I’ve done it on delta the past several years to hit diamond. Don’t fly much, but would like those trips to be comfortable.
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Old Mar 1, 2022, 7:12 am
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Originally Posted by travelingdrsuz
They had TWO MONTHS to work this out. You would think they could have displayed at least SOME of the LPs tonight. It was already lame leaving us this way. UGH!
False.

They announced this on October 26, 2021, they had a minimum of over four months to figure this out.

I've said all along we wouldn't know how many LP we were earning until at least March 1, 2022, I always assumed they'd be unable to tell us on March 1, 2022 how many we had earned.
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