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Loyalty Points discussion/questions - From 2022 now used for determining elite status

Old Dec 17, 2021, 11:25 am
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American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!

Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage

How many LPs do I need for elite status?


Code:
Gold:       40K
Platinum:   75K
Plat Pro:  125K
EXP:       200K
How do I earn LPs?

Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.

AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $

Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)

* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.

So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.

A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.

Earning chart for QR

Here's a great online LP calculator:

https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/

AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints

There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:

BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.

SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.

AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.

Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.

Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard

What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.

These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.

Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.

Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.











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Loyalty Points discussion/questions - From 2022 now used for determining elite status

Old Jan 28, 2022, 11:52 am
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Originally Posted by thatmikereed
No, they're not. We're in the double-dip period and those count towards 2021.
Did you notice that the poster was referring to a flight in September 2022?
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Old Jan 28, 2022, 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by thatmikereed
And MM calculations.
And in that case then the grocery store is not helping you anymore, though it used to several years back, so the comment I was responding to makes less sense.
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Old Jan 28, 2022, 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by vasantn
Did you notice that the poster was referring to a flight in September 2022?
No, but why would a future flight already be listed on their FF activity?
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Old Jan 28, 2022, 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by thatmikereed
No, but why would a future flight already be listed on their FF activity?
Perhaps you should go back and read the question.
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Old Jan 28, 2022, 5:43 pm
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Could someone tell me how many LP this will earn? I am EXP flying a BA marketed F-itin (I believe A-bucket) CDG-JFK-LHR-CDG. Thanks!
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Old Jan 28, 2022, 7:32 pm
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Originally Posted by 747-800i
Could someone tell me how many LP this will earn? I am EXP flying a BA marketed F-itin (I believe A-bucket) CDG-JFK-LHR-CDG. Thanks!
~27,017.

The Great Circle Mapper and the Wiki in the master thread are your friends. You really never want to rely on someone else's calculations.
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Old Jan 29, 2022, 12:22 am
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Originally Posted by vasantn
On top of your base mileage which earns 100%, you earn a 150% cabin bonus on an A fare on BA.

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...sh-airways.jsp

10,600 + (10,600 x 150%) = 26,500

The Wiki in the master thread can be helpful.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showwiki.php?t=2056814



Your accrual rate is 100%, your cabin bonus is 150%, your elite bonus is 0%.

[Edited to add:] If the flight had an AA flight no., you would earn $4,700 x 5 LPs/$ = 23,500 LP (assuming the price is net of taxes).
Another question arise. Assuming I charged the ticket on my AA card, with some more spending, I made Gold upon return from the trip. My next trip will have elite bonus, right?
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Old Jan 29, 2022, 4:56 am
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Originally Posted by unfrequentflyer
Another question arise. Assuming I charged the ticket on my AA card, with some more spending, I made Gold upon return from the trip. My next trip will have elite bonus, right?
Yes, 40% for GLD.
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Old Jan 29, 2022, 8:43 am
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Originally Posted by vasantn
Perhaps you should go back and read the question.
basically, I just want to maintain PLT for ‘23-Feb ‘24. I’m ignoring EQM’s at this point now that it’s 2022 - they don’t help me towards 2023-2024 status. However, It’s a bit weird AA would list EQM’s for an itinerary in September if, by September, they are in fact meaningless.
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Old Jan 29, 2022, 10:45 am
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Originally Posted by matinicus rock
However, It’s a bit weird AA would list EQM’s for an itinerary in September if, by September, they are in fact meaningless.
That’s exactly what I said, for which I was criticized!
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Old Jan 29, 2022, 3:23 pm
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Originally Posted by vasantn
We thought it did, but apparently not.
Are you planning to dispute with AA eShopping about this since it was listed on the page with the miles? Let us know how you are proceeding since that will likely set the stage for many of us.

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Old Jan 29, 2022, 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by brp
Are you planning to dispute with AA eShopping about this since it was listed on the page with the miles? Let us know how you are proceeding since that will likely set the stage for many of us.

Cheers.
I have to wait for 15 days after purchase before asking eShopping to investigate. So I'll have to dispute one on the 3rd and one on the 9th.

I'm in the same boat with two AT&T purchases as well.
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Old Jan 29, 2022, 8:58 pm
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Originally Posted by vasantn
I have to wait for 15 days after purchase before asking eShopping to investigate. So I'll have to dispute one on the 3rd and one on the 9th.
I'm in the same boat with two AT&T purchases as well.
Because LP are now the basis for Elite Status qualification with AA, I would also also raise the issue with Advantage customer service regarding missing qualification.
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Old Jan 30, 2022, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by matinicus rock
So I just bought a RT ticket, flight in September. It says I’m gonna earn 18,800 EQM’s and 15,000 miles. Do those EQM’s still count for something because I’m buying the flight before March 1? Otherwise, why would the EQM’s be listed?
Originally Posted by vasantn
Did you notice that the poster was referring to a flight in September 2022?
Originally Posted by thatmikereed
No, but why would a future flight already be listed on their FF activity?
I assumed the OP saw the number of EQMs during purchase. I often click to check anticipated earnings in the pop up box during purchase (especially during some of the promotions last year)
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Old Jan 31, 2022, 6:51 am
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LP calculator for flights

I finally have mine completed to my satisfaction. If anyone is interested in testing it out, please PM me with your email address.
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