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Originally Posted by taxicabnumber
(Post 33675705)
Am I right that there's now pretty much no downside to booking long-haul Basic Economy if you plan to use SWUs (and have fixed plans)?
-- BE tickets now count toward Loyalty Points the same as all others -- BE tickets can be SWUed |
Originally Posted by ChurnieEls
(Post 33675708)
Do you get LPs for the BIS? (aka EQMs at present) - that's something that's unclear to me.
On AA flights it's only done on fare though. |
Wow. This program really seems to try and hold you hostage with the knowledge that if you leave, it’ll be twice as hard to earn status back than to retain it.
If you didn’t hold status and set out on March 1 to earn it, you’d spend: $6k to reach Gold, earning 5 points/$1 as a member $6,428 more to reach Platinum, earning 7 points/$1 as a Gold $6,250 more to reach PP, earning 8 points/$1 as a Platinum $8,333 more to reach EP, earning 9 points/$1 as a PP. All told, $27k and change to attain EXP in your first year. Who exactly is that going to attract? |
How does all this affect a traveler that reaches EXP strictly through segments, with an annual CC spend of $0 (all my cc spend is on a Hilton cc).
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Which AAdvantage® miles do not count toward earning Loyalty Points?
(those bullets are from the FAQ at https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage |
Originally Posted by joeyE
(Post 33675718)
How does all this affect a traveler that reaches EXP strictly through segments, with an annual CC spend of $0 (all my cc spend is on a Hilton cc).
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Originally Posted by cmtlatitudes
(Post 33675591)
From a quick read, it seems like Business/First bonuses are gone past 2021 qualification. Partner flights will still be based on miles. But that's as far as new Program release goes --- at least on my very quick first read through..
So that means from the current Award Charts? Not sure. Have to digest this more tonight when I have time. |
Originally Posted by obunewbie17
(Post 33675652)
Everyone has acknowledged CC spend being the big winner here. But just know that if Costco ever accepts Mastercard...that's when you'll have a flood of new elites. With my family's grocery bill, I'd probably hit some level of status just off of my grocery bills.
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Brett, CrankyFlier, has a good breakdown on his site.
CrankyFlier - American Announces the End of the Frequent Flier Program With Elite Status That Can Be Earned Without Flying That feels like the airline is admitting something that has been increasingly obvious over time. The money made from credit cards and partners is enormous, and now American is just recognizing the importance. |
Not good for people with my pattern of travel
I fly paid F or J on the work account. I take a 3-5 transatlantic flights and a few domestic flights every year. I don’t typically hit 30 segments. I use status as a way to get benefits for when I’m on personal (out of my own pocket) travel. So I want those SWUs that I won’t be able to get without hitting 30 segments.
Looking at this program, either my travel profile type wasn’t considered, or was considered and discarded. This program change makes me google “delta status challenge”. Am I missing something here? Yes, I can stay EXP by getting the right credit card (I just won’t get SWUs until I hit 30 segments), but that’s really pointless as I’m a paid F/J business flyer. The comp upgrades are useless. I’d board in group 1 anyway. I used status as a way to be able to fly cheaply for family travel. Now that’s all but gone. /me finds the delta sub-forum here. |
Originally Posted by joeyE
(Post 33675718)
How does all this affect a traveler that reaches EXP strictly through segments, with an annual CC spend of $0 (all my cc spend is on a Hilton cc).
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Originally Posted by Mr. BoH
(Post 33675670)
Maybe I should have posted the "Q" from the FAQ in my first post too. When you include that, I think it is pretty clear in the context of the question they are answering:
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Keep $125K at Bask Bank for one year and get Platinum Pro?
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...94556a0a58.png
I'm not seeing any exclusion for AAdvantage miles earned at Bask Bank. |
In a way, I think AA is somewhat giving people what they want in the post-COVID world where more and more people are becoming free agents.
If you already have status and hold a CC, it'll be very easy to maintain at least some level of status. It's true, I might not be able to maintain my current EXP level, but to be honest, EXP status really isn't what it used to be, at least for me. If you live in NYC/DC/LA/CHI, this announcement somewhat gives you a security blanket and essentially frees you from whatever ties you have with AA. Knowing that I can always fall back on my CC spend will essentially given me an advantage to book travel on whomever has the best option for my travel needs, rather than simply booking AA/OW to keep status. With this announcement I can basically be a free agent and still hold Plat. |
Originally Posted by Mr. BoH
(Post 33675670)
Maybe I should have posted the "Q" from the FAQ in my first post too. When you include that, I think it is pretty clear in the context of the question they are answering:
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