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Old Dec 17, 2021, 11:25 am
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American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!

Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage

How many LPs do I need for elite status?


Code:
Gold:       40K
Platinum:   75K
Plat Pro:  125K
EXP:       200K
How do I earn LPs?

Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.

AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $

Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)

* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.

So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.

A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.

Earning chart for QR

Here's a great online LP calculator:

https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/

AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints

There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:

BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.

SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.

AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.

Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.

Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard

What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.

These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.

Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.

Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.











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Old Jul 19, 2023, 7:26 pm
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Last day tomorrow July 20 to book B6 flights and/or add your AA FFN to earn LPs....
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Old Jul 24, 2023, 12:33 pm
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Do Cabin Bonuses give you more Loyalty Points on AA? The 'Special Fares' page and tables seem to suggest yes, but I can't find a concrete answer.

http://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-pr...cial-fares.jsp
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Old Jul 26, 2023, 1:40 pm
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Calculating LP for AS marketed + ticketed AA operated flights

I bought a first class fare from SAN to PDX via ORD on Alaska. The first leg has an Alaska flight number but is operated by American and the second flight is an AS flight number operated by AS. Am I right that for an EXP the expected LP is 9324 LP? I guess I'm most concerned about the AA operated flight but from what I've read, since it was marketed by AS and sold on AS, it'd be calculated based on distance and fare class. A screenshot of my itinerary is below:
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Old Jul 26, 2023, 3:05 pm
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Standard way to get from SAN to PDX, of course!

Plug in fare codes and distance here: https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator

And you're correct, since it's AS flight numbers, the first flight should be treated as AS even though it's on AA metal.
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Old Jul 26, 2023, 6:16 pm
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How long should I wait for an Avis booking to post points before I contact AA?
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Old Jul 27, 2023, 2:05 am
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Finnair R tickets are not eligible for LPs

I flew from London to Asia via Helsinki 2 weeks ago. The outbound flights were coded R, and the return flights were J. The whole itinerary is marked as "Business Classic".

Only the two return flights earned LPs and the airline denied my missing mileage request due to "Ineligible Booking Code". I have appealed via email, but I am unsure whether they will even see the reply. Has anyone encountered the same problem before?
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Old Jul 27, 2023, 2:20 am
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Originally Posted by NotSoMuch
Finnair R tickets are not eligible for LPs

I flew from London to Asia via Helsinki 2 weeks ago. The outbound flights were coded R, and the return flights were J. The whole itinerary is marked as "Business Classic".

Only the two return flights earned LPs and the airline denied my missing mileage request due to "Ineligible Booking Code". I have appealed via email, but I am unsure whether they will even see the reply. Has anyone encountered the same problem before?
I earn on R fares all the time. Any chance you can share some screenshots of the booking with any sensitive information blurred out?
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Old Jul 27, 2023, 2:35 am
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Originally Posted by wutlol
I earn on R fares all the time. Any chance you can share some screenshots of the booking with any sensitive information blurred out?





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Old Jul 27, 2023, 2:37 am
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I fully expect this was an error on either AA or AY's end. Still very annoyed to have to jump through hoops especially since I am expecting this to push me over 200k this year
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Old Jul 27, 2023, 4:12 am
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Originally Posted by NotSoMuch
Finnair R tickets are not eligible for LPs

I flew from London to Asia via Helsinki 2 weeks ago. The outbound flights were coded R, and the return flights were J. The whole itinerary is marked as "Business Classic".

Only the two return flights earned LPs and the airline denied my missing mileage request due to "Ineligible Booking Code". I have appealed via email, but I am unsure whether they will even see the reply. Has anyone encountered the same problem before?
The online system is notorious for wrongly denying mileage credit, spitting out bogus responses like "ineligible booking code."

Just call AAdvantage Customer Service 800-882-8880 and they will take care of it. R fares on AY are 100% eligible for LP earning.
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Old Jul 27, 2023, 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by wutlol
How long should I wait for an Avis booking to post points before I contact AA?
I can't answer that question but for comparison, my recent Avis booking took about 3.5 weeks to post.
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Old Jul 28, 2023, 8:01 am
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AA Annoyance when crediting AA flights to AS

AA always seems to want its OneWorld customer to put in an AAdvantage number when booking a flight; it seems I always need to call custiomer service to have AA add in my Alaska MP number...Have others encountered this issue? It bseems to happen virtually every time I have an AA booking.

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Old Jul 28, 2023, 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by SoFlaFlyer737
AA always seems to want its OneWorld customer to put in an AAdvantage number when booking a flight; it seems I always need to call custioer service to have AA add in my Alaska MP number...Have others encountered this issue? It bseems to happen virtually every time I have an AA booking.
After seeing this I tried a new booking. Under passenger details, it defaults to my AAdvantage number, as expected. But there is a dropdown to choose any eligible airline and then I could enter the loyalty number for that airline.

So, at least in my case, very easy to set things up the way I want and no need to call.

Cheers.
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 5:26 am
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Had a trip conclude over two months ago and my Avis points haven’t posted yet. My plan is to go to AA customer support and to send them a copy of the credit card statement; am I missing any other resolution route for this? Thanks in advance.
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Old Aug 30, 2023, 6:48 pm
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I don’t like LP. I don’t trust anyone that they gave me a points. I do not appreciate that. All I want bring old mileage programs backs! I want back! This is not Southwest Airlines or JetBlue Airways! This is American Airlines! Everybody has their own rights to earned more miles, not loyalty points. This is outrageous! Please sign the petition to American Airlines! They violated the policy!
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