Dec 17, 2021, 11:25 am
Last edit by: jbeckett
American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!
Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage
How many LPs do I need for elite status?
How do I earn LPs?
Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.
AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $
Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)
* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.
So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.
A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.
Earning chart for QR
Here's a great online LP calculator:
https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/
AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints
There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:
BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.
SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.
AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.
Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.
Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard
What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.
These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.
Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.
Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler℠ status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.
Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage
How many LPs do I need for elite status?
Code:
Gold: 40K Platinum: 75K Plat Pro: 125K EXP: 200K
Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.
AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $
Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)
* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.
So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.
A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.
Earning chart for QR
Here's a great online LP calculator:
https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/
AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints
There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:
BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.
SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.
AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
- A separate thread exists to discuss the AAdvantage eShopping portal
- Another thread exists to discuss using the portal for a particular merchant, giftcards.com
- For additional questions about buying and using gift cards, refer to the separate Manufactured Spending forum.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.
Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.
Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard
What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.
These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.
Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.
Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler℠ status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.
Loyalty Points discussion/questions - From 2022 now used for determining elite status
Jul 17, 2022, 2:27 pm
#3361
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I’ve got to be that guy. When the program changed, I consumed everything about the new program and decided to shift over to BAEC. I’ve recently decided to chase PP the last half of the year. So I’ve moved biz spend the last half of June to the Exec Card. I just paid Junes bill, which was 8k in spend yet the LP’s awarded were 2021. I understood that on that card it is 1LP per 1$ spent. Did I miss interpret how CC spend works?
Are you sure you are looking at it correctly? You should get 1 LP for every $1 in spend (nothing for cash advances, fees, etc)
Jul 17, 2022, 2:38 pm
#3362
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: SoCal,
Programs: BAEC Gold, AA PPro
Posts: 771
EDIT: They posted at statement closing. I found them. Thanks again for the help. I’m going to do some homework and re read a good portion of this thread.
Jul 19, 2022, 1:56 pm
#3363
Join Date: Jan 2016
Programs: AA, Hyatt, Marriott, Hilton
Posts: 501
Has anyone had any difficulty getting rental car reservations to post? 10+ rentals on Avis/Hertz this year. I opted for Avis to earn AA miles instead of Avis preferred points, and on Hertz my FF# is attached to my reservations. Not sure if i was supposed to be doing something else, but I was told how "easy" it was to earn loyalty points so didn't think much of it until recently.
Jul 19, 2022, 2:01 pm
#3364
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Has anyone had any difficulty getting rental car reservations to post? 10+ rentals on Avis/Hertz this year. I opted for Avis to earn AA miles instead of Avis preferred points, and on Hertz my FF# is attached to my reservations. Not sure if i was supposed to be doing something else, but I was told how "easy" it was to earn loyalty points so didn't think much of it until recently.
Jul 19, 2022, 2:43 pm
#3365
Join Date: Apr 2004
Programs: AA Plat/2MM, DL Silver, UA Silver (via Marr), Marr LTT, HH Gold (via cc), Hyatt Disc
Posts: 1,039
Has anyone had any difficulty getting rental car reservations to post? 10+ rentals on Avis/Hertz this year. I opted for Avis to earn AA miles instead of Avis preferred points, and on Hertz my FF# is attached to my reservations. Not sure if i was supposed to be doing something else, but I was told how "easy" it was to earn loyalty points so didn't think much of it until recently.
Jul 19, 2022, 3:04 pm
#3366
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: AA ExecPlat
Posts: 94
Since LP are maxed out at 75,000 per ticket, am I correct in saying that above a certain threshold depending on status level and elite multiplier, there's no benefit to spending more than $X base fare on a ticket, in terms of status, upgrade priority, LP earned, etc?
For example, as ExecPlat, $6819 x 11 = 75,000 LP. If I spend $10K, I would still only earn 75,000 LP.
This came up recently as I had a few different routing options for a flight to Madrid, ranging from $7-13K. It's a corporate trip, and the best routing/times for me were ~$7K, but I considered getting a different routing to increase spend, but realized there's no benefit in doing so. Previously, I don't remember a cap on EQDs, so spending more at least meant higher priority for upgrades in the old program.
It just seems odd that the new program emphasizes spend, but yet seems to have no incentive to spend above a set threshold.
For example, as ExecPlat, $6819 x 11 = 75,000 LP. If I spend $10K, I would still only earn 75,000 LP.
This came up recently as I had a few different routing options for a flight to Madrid, ranging from $7-13K. It's a corporate trip, and the best routing/times for me were ~$7K, but I considered getting a different routing to increase spend, but realized there's no benefit in doing so. Previously, I don't remember a cap on EQDs, so spending more at least meant higher priority for upgrades in the old program.
It just seems odd that the new program emphasizes spend, but yet seems to have no incentive to spend above a set threshold.
Jul 19, 2022, 3:49 pm
#3367
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7,904
How long is "quickly?" My Budget from 6+ weeks ago hasn't posted, but I expect them to be slow. (Dollar posted in less time.)
Jul 19, 2022, 4:25 pm
#3368
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A couple questions:
Does the GC.com thing still work? How many LPs do you get thru it? Or is there a thread for it?
I was looking at a Discovery+ subscription, where AA mentions the 4.99 and 6.99 plan. However, when you click thru the link, Discovery+ offers it for 99 cents per month for 2 months. Would subscribing to that get me the LPs as I went thru the site, even though the offer isn't on AA's site?
Thanks!
Does the GC.com thing still work? How many LPs do you get thru it? Or is there a thread for it?
I was looking at a Discovery+ subscription, where AA mentions the 4.99 and 6.99 plan. However, when you click thru the link, Discovery+ offers it for 99 cents per month for 2 months. Would subscribing to that get me the LPs as I went thru the site, even though the offer isn't on AA's site?
Thanks!
Jul 20, 2022, 7:37 am
#3369
Join Date: Apr 2004
Programs: AA Plat/2MM, DL Silver, UA Silver (via Marr), Marr LTT, HH Gold (via cc), Hyatt Disc
Posts: 1,039
Jul 20, 2022, 10:05 am
#3370
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Posts: 10,904
It's not a trick; there's nothing to "work". You click through to the portal and you get the number of miles advertised (3 per dollar spent). It's no different than any other portal purchase.
Jul 24, 2022, 7:46 am
#3372
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Jul 24, 2022, 8:41 am
#3373
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Jul 24, 2022, 8:55 am
#3374
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