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Loyalty Points discussion/questions - From 2022 now used for determining elite status

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American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!

Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage

How many LPs do I need for elite status?


Code:
Gold:       30K
 Platinum:   75K
 Plat Pro:  125K
 EXP:       200K
How do I earn LPs?

Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.

AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $

Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)

* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.

So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.

A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.

Earning chart for QR

Here's a great online LP calculator:

https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/

AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints

There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:

BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.

SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.

AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.

Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.

Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard

What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.

These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.

Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.

Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.










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Old Jun 24, 22, 1:07 pm
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Originally Posted by popfly View Post
For the life of me I can't find my segments flown on the website or the app. This is the first time I went to check on them since the program changed. Are we supposed to track them manually or are they hidden somewhere on the website?
Yes, they are well hidden at the bottom of your promotions. And it doesn't show up there until you fly your first segment.

I guess they consider the loyalty choice awards to be a promotion?? It seems like they could have put it on the activity page instead...
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Old Jun 24, 22, 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler View Post
Yes, they are well hidden at the bottom of your promotions. And it doesn't show up there until you fly your first segment.

I guess they consider the loyalty choice awards to be a promotion?? It seems like they could have put it on the activity page instead...
Thanks, that was driving me crazy! I knew they had to be somewhere.
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Old Jun 24, 22, 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler View Post
Yes, they are well hidden at the bottom of your promotions. And it doesn't show up there until you fly your first segment.

I guess they consider the loyalty choice awards to be a promotion?? It seems like they could have put it on the activity page instead...
The reason is that this is a frequent customer rewards program, and the flying part is an afterthought or just a small part of it....

Or they are in the promotion page so they can be slashed easily when the promotion ends...
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Old Jul 3, 22, 3:27 am
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Originally Posted by pinkibone View Post
Wondering if anyone has found out about e-rewards. I searched but I couldn't find any updates.
in case anyone is wondering, e-rewards doesnt earn loyalty points. Only Aadvantage miles. However, miles for opinion surveys do. I couldnt see if there were any updates to my prior questions so apologies if this is old news.


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Old Jul 3, 22, 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler View Post
Home Depot is not worth it IMO; only 0.5 miles per dollar on all but one category ("home improvement"). There's no indication anywhere of what falls into what category.

Be sure to buy Lowe's or Home Depot gift cards on giftcards.com (no fee and 1% site credit). They are digital cards that can be used online or scanned at the register. So that's 3 miles + 1% in addition to whatever your credit card earns.

Additionally you can use those gift cards online after clicking through the portal. My experience is that they earn miles on Home Depot (again, only 0.5 per dollar though) despite warnings that purchases made with gift cards "may not" earn miles. Honestly for an extra 0.5 miles it's not worth the hassle IMO. Just show up at the store with a bunch of screenshots of GCs that you bought on giftscards.com

I have not tried this double dip for Lowe's; I only used their gcs in-store. I would try with a small purchase first if you are going to do it. And read the terms at the bottom of the page; it will tell you about any exclusions.
FYi, I am still trying to get an answer from Home Depot on whether or not I can use gift cards in the store to pay for my counter and flooring installation, The Gift card rules say: "Gift Card cannot be applied to any credit or loan balance, Tool Rental Deposits, or for in-home purchases." (https://www.homedepot.com/c/Gift_Card_FAQ) Corporate hasn't been able to tell me for sure what is an in home purchase. My next step will be to ask the store manager on site. I only want to buy $4,000 of gift cards if I'm sure I can use them.
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Old Jul 3, 22, 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by vasantn View Post
AT&T is back up to 6200 miles. I had bought one at 3700; I bought another one at 6200.

I just noticed that the small print says the miles will be awarded 3 months after purchase.

Neither my Verizon nor my earlier AT&T purchase are tracking yet. Also not tracking is my Bright Cellars purchase. If nothing shows by Monday, I will send an email to customer service.
A miracle has occurred. My 3700 and 6200 LPs/miles from AT&T have finally posted after 5 months of my harassing Cartera. Total cost was under $10.

Fortune favors the annoyingly pushy.

(The Verizon miles had already posted back in March.)
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Old Jul 4, 22, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by vasantn View Post
A miracle has occurred. My 3700 and 6200 LPs/miles from AT&T have finally posted after 5 months of my harassing Cartera. Total cost was under $10.

Fortune favors the annoyingly pushy.

(The Verizon miles had already posted back in March.)
what did you buy from AT&T?
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Old Jul 4, 22, 5:21 pm
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Dear Flyertalk,

What is the better option to get more LPs? Fly BA or Qatar on AA flight number or fly on original airline and its flight number (for example, flying PE or C class JFK-LHR-JNB on BA112/BA57 or AA 6939/AA6753). Another example is Qatar Business Class (JFK-DOH-JNB on Qatar QR 704/1367 or AA8118/AA1367).

Thanks
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Old Jul 4, 22, 5:29 pm
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https://lpcalculator.com/#/table
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Old Jul 4, 22, 8:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Soccerjoshj07 View Post
what did you buy from AT&T?
Two prepaid lines.
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Old Jul 5, 22, 5:40 pm
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Thank you.
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Old Jul 5, 22, 5:41 pm
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Originally Posted by nk15 View Post
Thank you. Very helpful and I have what I need.
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Old Jul 9, 22, 12:19 pm
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I keep a spreadsheet now for loyalty points, both to check AA's math but also to estimate earning by end of the earning period based on planned flights. Up until a month or so ago the LPs showing on AA site matched what I inputed. However since a month ago it's not matching up. I've added them up a few times, I show exactly the same activity as AA yet when added together they are a couple thousand low on AA. Anyone else experiencing this?

One strange thing I noticed was around March first there was a lump sum loyalty points showing in activity for Jan/Feb but then also there was an additional entry of 2097, like they had made a mistake and corrected it. But even after that was added my calculations matched for the next 2+ month but all of a sudden didn't.

I'd like to bring up this discrepancy to them but since it's not associated with a specific ticket how to I communicate this with AAdvantage without making a phone call?
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Old Jul 9, 22, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Jonesdds View Post
One strange thing I noticed was around March first there was a lump sum loyalty points showing in activity for Jan/Feb but then also there was an additional entry of 2097, like they had made a mistake and corrected it. But even after that was added my calculations matched for the next 2+ month but all of a sudden didn't.
Whats an example of an entry that doesnt match?
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Old Jul 9, 22, 7:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Jonesdds View Post
I keep a spreadsheet now for loyalty points, both to check AA's math but also to estimate earning by end of the earning period based on planned flights. Up until a month or so ago the LPs showing on AA site matched what I inputed. However since a month ago it's not matching up. I've added them up a few times, I show exactly the same activity as AA yet when added together they are a couple thousand low on AA. Anyone else experiencing this?

One strange thing I noticed was around March first there was a lump sum loyalty points showing in activity for Jan/Feb but then also there was an additional entry of 2097, like they had made a mistake and corrected it. But even after that was added my calculations matched for the next 2+ month but all of a sudden didn't.

I'd like to bring up this discrepancy to them but since it's not associated with a specific ticket how to I communicate this with AAdvantage without making a phone call?
Seems unlikely that they are wrong if they are not missing activity.

That 2097 is most likely activity that occurred in Jan-Feb but posted in March.

As for the discrepancy, you say that ask the activity matches. Go through each entry on AA and ensure that the things that you are counting all actually earn LP, and not just miles. Possibly you are counting something that is actually only bonus miles. For example, a bonus from the shopping portal, or a category bonus from the CC.
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