Dec 17, 2021, 11:25 am
Last edit by: jbeckett
American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!
Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage
How many LPs do I need for elite status?
How do I earn LPs?
Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.
AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $
Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)
* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.
So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.
A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.
Earning chart for QR
Here's a great online LP calculator:
https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/
AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints
There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:
BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.
SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.
AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.
Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.
Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard
What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.
These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.
Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.
Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler℠ status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.
Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage
How many LPs do I need for elite status?
Code:
Gold: 40K Platinum: 75K Plat Pro: 125K EXP: 200K
Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.
AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $
Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)
* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.
So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.
A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.
Earning chart for QR
Here's a great online LP calculator:
https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/
AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints
There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:
BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.
SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.
AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
- A separate thread exists to discuss the AAdvantage eShopping portal
- Another thread exists to discuss using the portal for a particular merchant, giftcards.com
- For additional questions about buying and using gift cards, refer to the separate Manufactured Spending forum.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.
Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.
Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard
What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.
These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.
Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.
Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler℠ status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.
Loyalty Points discussion/questions - From 2022 now used for determining elite status
Apr 24, 2022, 1:51 pm
#3091
Join Date: Aug 2005
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This may have been mentioned before but I think it's worth confirming that charges on the AA Executive World Elite Mastercard only count x1 for loyalty points. They do still count double for reward miles if the charge is made on aa.com, but only single for loyalty points. For example, a flight paid for with the AA card on aa.com that cost $7,000 will get 14,000 RDM (reward miles) but only 7,000 loyalty points. Or that's been my experience so far. If it's happened differently for anybody else please let us know.
Apr 24, 2022, 2:40 pm
#3092
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: District of Columbia
Programs: AA ExecPl, AT Gold, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Diamond, Hilton Diamond, National
Posts: 2,440
This may have been mentioned before but I think it's worth confirming that charges on the AA Executive World Elite Mastercard only count x1 for loyalty points. They do still count double for reward miles if the charge is made on aa.com, but only single for loyalty points. For example, a flight paid for with the AA card on aa.com that cost $7,000 will get 14,000 RDM (reward miles) but only 7,000 loyalty points. Or that's been my experience so far. If it's happened differently for anybody else please let us know.
Thanks for the reminder for everyone.
Apr 24, 2022, 6:16 pm
#3093
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I purchased a Dfw-lhr ticket for December travel last week and a also a Dfw-PVR trip for June. Shouldn’t the LP have appeared by now? It’s 11 x base price for exp right?
Apr 24, 2022, 6:22 pm
#3094
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Apr 24, 2022, 6:22 pm
#3095
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Apr 24, 2022, 8:40 pm
#3096
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Apr 25, 2022, 3:23 am
#3097
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Sorry if it is a question discussed to death in the early parts of the thread. Does ticket stock for partner flights matter for the earning levels? If I get a JL coded flight on AA ticket stock does it still earn as a partner flight, i.e. quite miserably for a J TPAC JL coded? Does it have to be AA coded as well to get the more attractive LP earning?
Since the wiki does not mention any details on ticket stock, I guess it does not influence the earning. But I thought I'd just ask to confirm 100%
Since the wiki does not mention any details on ticket stock, I guess it does not influence the earning. But I thought I'd just ask to confirm 100%
Apr 25, 2022, 4:27 am
#3098
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,698
ticket stock doesn’t matter. It’s all about the marketing carrier.
Sorry if it is a question discussed to death in the early parts of the thread. Does ticket stock for partner flights matter for the earning levels? If I get a JL coded flight on AA ticket stock does it still earn as a partner flight, i.e. quite miserably for a J TPAC JL coded? Does it have to be AA coded as well to get the more attractive LP earning?
Since the wiki does not mention any details on ticket stock, I guess it does not influence the earning. But I thought I'd just ask to confirm 100%
Since the wiki does not mention any details on ticket stock, I guess it does not influence the earning. But I thought I'd just ask to confirm 100%
Apr 25, 2022, 4:37 am
#3099
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Apr 25, 2022, 10:36 pm
#3100
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Have to ask why to you use the AA card but rarely fly? There are so many credit card options to use your spend on that earn value for things you would use. Just seems odd to me
Apr 26, 2022, 6:54 am
#3101
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Location: Annapolis, MD
Posts: 483
If someone has flexibility and likes to travel internationally on vacation in J once every couple years they can easily get $.05+ per dollar of value out of their AA credit card spend, while still flying rarely. What alternate options would you suggest that provide more value? What would make one think that someone who uses the miles they've accumulated via their credit card to fly in J on vacation isn't "using" or getting "value" out of them? If anything that's a pretty typical use case of the AAdvantage card, not sure why that would seem "odd"? Getting gold status and at least the hope of access to a live person on the customer service line during the few other times you fly during the year is nice gravy for this use case.
Apr 26, 2022, 12:27 pm
#3102
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Apr 26, 2022, 12:42 pm
#3103
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If someone has flexibility and likes to travel internationally on vacation in J once every couple years they can easily get $.05+ per dollar of value out of their AA credit card spend, while still flying rarely. What alternate options would you suggest that provide more value? What would make one think that someone who uses the miles they've accumulated via their credit card to fly in J on vacation isn't "using" or getting "value" out of them? If anything that's a pretty typical use case of the AAdvantage card, not sure why that would seem "odd"? Getting gold status and at least the hope of access to a live person on the customer service line during the few other times you fly during the year is nice gravy for this use case.
Apr 26, 2022, 4:00 pm
#3104
Join Date: Mar 2009
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If someone has flexibility and likes to travel internationally on vacation in J once every couple years they can easily get $.05+ per dollar of value out of their AA credit card spend, while still flying rarely. What alternate options would you suggest that provide more value? What would make one think that someone who uses the miles they've accumulated via their credit card to fly in J on vacation isn't "using" or getting "value" out of them? If anything that's a pretty typical use case of the AAdvantage card, not sure why that would seem "odd"? Getting gold status and at least the hope of access to a live person on the customer service line during the few other times you fly during the year is nice gravy for this use case.
Apr 26, 2022, 5:26 pm
#3105
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Several options come to mind like the Chase Trio of CSR, CFU and Freedom. Daily spend on CFU, travel and dining on CSR and quarterly on Freedom. Or AMEX gold for dining and groceries a 4x and Platinum for airline and hotel at 5x. Transfer to American or another international partner for J travel. And both of those options have flexibility to do other things should you chose to.