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October 1-31 2021 widebody schedule out w/ more routes domestically

October 1-31 2021 widebody schedule out w/ more routes domestically

Old Sep 27, 21, 11:30 am
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I had also booked October PHL-LAX flights on the 777 long before the cargo schedule came out. My November flights are a trip I have to take regardless, so whether it goes back to a narrow body won't change my trip plans. Plus, the RT ticket was something like $160 at the time of booking.
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Old Sep 27, 21, 3:59 pm
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I have 77W flight DFW-MIA legs in October.
Looks like a guarantee upgrade at this point -- only 11 J/F seats are sold on the way out; 6 J/F seats sold on the way back. Weirdly, a lot of the other A321 and 737 flights appear much fuller in both coach and F.

Roundtrip DFW-MIA tickets are $100 in coach, $900 in First.

Unfortunately, the grace of low fares are never bestowed on us outstations -- Adding in the E145 SWO-DFW legs (i.e. same dates SWO-MIA) brings the fares to $400 on the same flights in coach, $1150 in F. (and those E145 legs are still only half full; not exactly a situation of limited space)
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Old Sep 27, 21, 5:51 pm
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Did you price out the non-stop from OKC?
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Old Sep 27, 21, 6:37 pm
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Originally Posted by thunderdeacon
Did you price out the non-stop from OKC?
same dates

500 in Y, 750 in F

And OKC DFW MIA flights that use the nearly empty widebodies on the dfw mia legs are 400 in Y and 1200 in F. Like I said in other posts, I have seen very little in the way of bargain fares of the Covid era.
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Old Sep 27, 21, 7:29 pm
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Looks like DFWMCO gets a very short-lived 0905a departure on a 788 MWThF 12/1-12/15.
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Old Sep 27, 21, 7:31 pm
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Originally Posted by tismfu
Looks like DFWMCO gets a very short-lived 0905a departure on a 788 MWThF 12/1-12/15.
I'd expect them to load in more at a later point when more booking data comes in - last December they had a daily 772 and a daily 773.
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Old Nov 8, 21, 7:39 am
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When does AA release/update its domestic widebody schedules for upcoming months? How far in advance?

I'm looking at flights from PHL -> LAX in mid-February (which I assume will have at least one or two wide bodies) and right now it's still only showing the A321s.

We're only about 10 weeks out, gotta be soon, no?
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Old Nov 8, 21, 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by PHLondoner
When does AA release/update its domestic widebody schedules for upcoming months? How far in advance?

I'm looking at flights from PHL -> LAX in mid-February (which I assume will have at least one or two wide bodies) and right now it's still only showing the A321s.

We're only about 10 weeks out, gotta be soon, no?
I don't trust the schedule until it's on cargo, which is released a few days before the start of the month (and even then, subject to change). With the LAX INTL traffic moving to SEA, I wouldn't expect much, you're much more likely routing via DFW, maybe ORD, as they have similar fleets, while PHL and LAX don't.
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Old Nov 8, 21, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by PHLondoner
When does AA release/update its domestic widebody schedules for upcoming months? How far in advance?

I'm looking at flights from PHL -> LAX in mid-February (which I assume will have at least one or two wide bodies) and right now it's still only showing the A321s.

We're only about 10 weeks out, gotta be soon, no?
February schedules should be more realistic in Mid December. If the widebodies are still providing such great domestic yields like Vasu Raja said they are, then it would stand to reason we keep seeing them on those kinds of routes until Europe and Asia flying ramps up <hopefully> in the Spring/Summer.
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Old Nov 8, 21, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by PHLondoner
When does AA release/update its domestic widebody schedules for upcoming months? How far in advance?

I'm looking at flights from PHL -> LAX in mid-February (which I assume will have at least one or two wide bodies) and right now it's still only showing the A321s.

We're only about 10 weeks out, gotta be soon, no?
To be specific other than some NE joint-venture routes, Hawaii and Puerto Rico routes; the schedule is only updated until 3 January 2022 ( inclusive ). So any schedule after that date remains as a placeholder.
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Old Nov 8, 21, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by PHL
February schedules should be more realistic in Mid December. If the widebodies are still providing such great domestic yields like Vasu Raja said they are, then it would stand to reason we keep seeing them on those kinds of routes until Europe and Asia flying ramps up <hopefully> in the Spring/Summer.
I flew PHL->LAX->PHL this week both on the 789 and both were full.
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Old Nov 9, 21, 7:46 am
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Originally Posted by PHLondoner
I flew PHL->LAX->PHL this week both on the 789 and both were full.
I will be flying it later this week as well. My fare was $168, which means they are collecting $125 before fees/taxes, or $62.50 each way, from me. If the flight is full of those fares, it won't last. Booked it early when there was wide open availability to upgrade with points + copay. No brainer.
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Old Nov 9, 21, 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by PHLondoner
I flew PHL->LAX->PHL this week both on the 789 and both were full.
Lots of elites taking this flight so not surprisingly at all that F would go out full
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Old Nov 9, 21, 5:48 pm
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Originally Posted by fly747first
Lots of elites taking this flight so not surprisingly at all that F would go out full
For my upcoming trip in a few days, J was still selling up until a day or two ago.
The question is how many elites are paying attention to the schedule more than the aircraft when booking a trip PHL-LAX where there's a 440pm on an A321 and a 605pm on a 787. Ditto for the red eye back where there's a 1030pm on a 787 and an 1109pm on an A321.
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Old Nov 9, 21, 10:13 pm
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Originally Posted by PHL
For my upcoming trip in a few days, J was still selling up until a day or two ago.
The question is how many elites are paying attention to the schedule more than the aircraft when booking a trip PHL-LAX where there's a 440pm on an A321 and a 605pm on a 787. Ditto for the red eye back where there's a 1030pm on a 787 and an 1109pm on an A321.
PHL LAX/SFO having a widebody is nothing new. Even before Covid, there was an A332 on these routes.

You are also forgetting than many passengers connect in PHL so this makes it easier for AA to fill the F cabin.
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