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It has been confirmed by AA that they will be moving all flights back to LHR T3 as of 12 July 2022:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInformation/destinationInformation/lhr-airport.jsp
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInformation/destinationInformation/lhr-airport.jsp
We 're moving all operations to Terminal 3 on July 12, 2022.
Until then, if you're flying to New York (JFK), Dallas Fort Worth (DFW), Los Angeles (LAX) and Miami (MIA) you’ll check-in and depart from Terminal 5.
Remember to check your flight status before you go to the airport and arrive at least 3 hours before your scheduled departure time.
Until then, if you're flying to New York (JFK), Dallas Fort Worth (DFW), Los Angeles (LAX) and Miami (MIA) you’ll check-in and depart from Terminal 5.
Remember to check your flight status before you go to the airport and arrive at least 3 hours before your scheduled departure time.
AA Splits Ops at LHR / London Heathrow T3 and T5; ending 12 Jul 2022 (confirmed)
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With due respect, that does not really bode well for the rest of your "facts".
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If this is confirmed, they are leaving it VERY late to announce it! I'm due on a LHR-DFW flight later in the month, any tips on parking if this is the case? My return leg is T5 with BA (trip is 6 days)
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As I already posted - and can be easily checked - IB moved to T5 in 2012 approx a year after IAG was formed.
I though what AA and BA make some deal to handling together passengers (First class) at JFK and LHR T5, but sadly this is not the case,
And for a move now supposedly happening on Friday of this week there is still not a sniff of an official announcement.
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I've done this many times for out T5 / in T3, or vice-versa.
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That is what this (part of the) thread is about and as I was saying, it is not either/or but something that comes to add to other more general issues you are mentioning (and which, by the way, they are currently a lot worse in the London area than in many other parts of Europe).
You’ve made your calculations and decided that you didn’t have to travel to Europe and that other risks were enough for you not to do so. Totally fine and entirely your prerogative. Plenty of other people don’t have a choice, and others do and have decided the other Tisha were fine by then, which does not in any way mean they’d be happy to get an entirely different issue thrown at then.
The truism is that of course, if you are not planning to fly AA (or for that matter IB) transitions at Lhr I’m coming months, then whether AA or IB change terminals or not makes exactly zero difference to you. It is exactly as obvious that to other people who are, it does, and I’m not too sure what your point is telling them it doesn’t when you are not in their situation?
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Oh - do we know each other? Apologies, I had not realised!
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Well here you go, at last something which suggest this terminal shift may be happening, and possibly why it would happen
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After all the "grief" garimi got, they may indeed have been onto something!! Another article about BA's terminal moves (which may indeed pave the way for the rumoured AA and IB moves): https://www.headforpoints.com/2022/0...in-terminal-5/
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Yes indeed. I think we were all being a bit too rational and logical. I don't think anyone expected BA to make panic moves of the majority of T3 routes back to T5 with two weeks notice in the middle of a season, and forcing AA to move all flights back to T3. People have not unreasonably made arrangements based on the terminal they thought they would arrive/depart from, and of course there may be many people who now find their connections in breach of MCTs and need to try and rebook.
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Yes indeed. I think we were all being a bit too rational and logical. I don't think anyone expected BA to make panic moves of the majority of T3 routes back to T5 with two weeks notice in the middle of a season, and forcing AA to move all flights back to T3. People have not unreasonably made arrangements based on the terminal they thought they would arrive/depart from, and of course there may be many people who now find their connections in breach of MCTs and need to try and rebook.
The last three months of "endless misery" have the spotlight on them from the press, government and the flying public so BA has to appear to being doing something to change what is going on with operations at LHR.
Bringing everything (or almost everything) back to T5 to consolidate in one spot can be called a "change for good" as the strive for the best use of the staff they have by putting them all in one spot.
Who knows, might even help .
PS: Apologies by the doubters of our LHR insider who said this was coming are appropriate now.
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Not only that, but AA/BA change the schedule on you with less than 2 weeks notice so now your connecting flight is arriving into Paris or Rome or wherever 4+ hours later, is EU compensation due?
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Are you "kidding". BA is under tremendous pressure to "do something"!
The last three months of "endless misery" have the spotlight on them from the press, government and the flying public so BA has to appear to being doing something to change what is going on with operations at LHR.
Bringing everything (or almost everything) back to T5 to consolidate in one spot can be called a "change for good" as the strive for the best use of the staff they have by putting them all in one spot.
Who knows, might even help .
The last three months of "endless misery" have the spotlight on them from the press, government and the flying public so BA has to appear to being doing something to change what is going on with operations at LHR.
Bringing everything (or almost everything) back to T5 to consolidate in one spot can be called a "change for good" as the strive for the best use of the staff they have by putting them all in one spot.
Who knows, might even help .
I doubt this change has anything to do with press or government tbh.
There will still be routes left in T3, at my count 13 short haul routes although I think a few of those are currently being operated by the AY wet lease.
It will of course be interesting to see whether all these routes move back come W22. I suspect this is a temporary solution rather than a permanent move, and once staffing allows they will be moved back to T3 and AA will come back to T5.
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This is the part that I can't get over, if this does pan out, the T5-T5 MCT is 60 mins while T3-T5 is 90 mins. We're looking at potentially thousands of pax that will need rebooking onto already full BA intra Europe flights at a ridiculously short notice. Seems like a complete disaster in the making.
Not only that, but AA/BA change the schedule on you with less than 2 weeks notice so now your connecting flight is arriving into Paris or Rome or wherever 4+ hours later, is EU compensation due?
I think duty of care should still apply regardless, so if you are now forced to night stop due to rebooking as a result of the move I would still look to claim back the costs of the hotel from BA/AA.
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Well as someone who travels on BA on a weekly basis, and having done so throughout the last two years (barring lockdowns) I certainly am very aware of how BA operations are going. To the extent they are under pressure, it is very much based on their lack of resources which is likely to last until the end of the summer.
I doubt this change has anything to do with press or government tbh.
There will still be routes left in T3, at my count 13 short haul routes although I think a few of those are currently being operated by the AY wet lease.
It will of course be interesting to see whether all these routes move back come W22. I suspect this is a temporary solution rather than a permanent move, and once staffing allows they will be moved back to T3 and AA will come back to T5.
I doubt this change has anything to do with press or government tbh.
There will still be routes left in T3, at my count 13 short haul routes although I think a few of those are currently being operated by the AY wet lease.
It will of course be interesting to see whether all these routes move back come W22. I suspect this is a temporary solution rather than a permanent move, and once staffing allows they will be moved back to T3 and AA will come back to T5.
Certainly a number of complaints here on FT about the AA people in the BA lounges in T5.
Well this move should make for a reduction in the crowding seen earlier this year as those people all go back to T3. (To stay, we shall see).
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It certainly would be a daft reason to start instituting terminal moves like this.