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Flagship Lounges and Flagship First Dining to start reopening September 2021

Flagship Lounges and Flagship First Dining to start reopening September 2021

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Airline will welcome back customers with new menus inspired by chefs from the James Beard Foundation (link)
  • Flagship Lounges will begin reopening in September.
  • American collaborates with James Beard Foundation and awe-inspiring local chefs on regionally inspired menu items.
  • Customers traveling to Hawaii in Flagship First and Flagship Business will be able to access the Flagship experience.

Reopening schedule:

  • John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK) Terminal 8
    • Flagship Lounge: 14 Sept, 2021
    • Flagship First Dining: 16 Sept, 2021
  • Miami International Airport (MIA) Concourse D
    • Flagship Lounge: 28 Sept, 2021
    • Flagship First Dining: 30 Sept, 2021
  • Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) Terminal 4
    • Flagship Lounge: 26 Jan, 2022
    • Flagship First Dining: Closed - TBD
  • Dallas Fort Worth International Airport (DFW) Terminal D
    • Flagship Lounge: 2 Mar, 2022
    • Flagship First Dining: 3 Mar, 2022
  • Chicago O'Hare International Airport (ORD) Terminal 3
    • Flagship Lounge 21 April, 2022
    • No Flagship First Dining at ORD.
The Philadelphia (PHL) lounge is under construction with a "coming soon" note on aa.com.








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Old Sep 16, 21, 1:41 pm
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What are people's take on the FFD red wines?
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Old Sep 16, 21, 2:08 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingEgghead View Post
Back at JFK FFD for lunch!



Nice looking plate..

How was breakfast? Always seems like lunch/dinner were better but maybe just because how elevated can breakfast really be. Although at LAX FFD I swear they had a diff crew who worked 6-11 and then left b/c I had some pretty weak breakfast but quite good main menu options.

Thanks for the pics
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Old Sep 16, 21, 2:10 pm
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I really want to get into FFD on LAX-MIA-JFK in a few weeks. LAX-MIA in FF. These JFK agents better let me in. Will arrive 8pm and want to drink and have a nice dinner.

Funny thing is I probably have a better shot getting in at JFK for dinner than at MIA for lunch due to the incompetent dragons at MIA.
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Old Sep 16, 21, 2:17 pm
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Itís Thursday at 4 pm and the Flagship Lounge at JFK is PACKED!!! There are no empty seats. I have never seen the Flagship Lounge this crowded. There must be a couple of hundred people in here. I wish I had one of my old complimentary FFD dining coupons!!!
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Old Sep 16, 21, 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by PHL View Post
Yes, LHR is among the 5 destinations served from PHL. I should have been more specific in my comment about what constitutes FS, which I believe is the whole experience. What is different between a FS JFK-LHR business class flight vs. a FS PHL-LHR business class flight? Answer: The pre-flight experience.
{Emphasis added}
You're free to believe that, but it doesn't mean it's true. Just because in PHL you get the AC with drink chits instead of a Flagship Lounge doesn't mean it's not flagship service.

In any event, FFD looks great, surprised they have such a "full" menu given usage will probably be slow to ramp up.
On the bubbly, I imagine the Roederer is what they serve in the regular FL. Originally it was Bolly which I really like, but Roederer is fine.
I don't actually recognize any of the FFD red wines, but the Hermann Weimer Riesling is pretty good. Prob ~$20 retail.
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Old Sep 16, 21, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by sportsguymichael View Post
Itís Thursday at 4 pm and the Flagship Lounge at JFK is PACKED!!! There are no empty seats. I have never seen the Flagship Lounge this crowded. There must be a couple of hundred people in here. I wish I had one of my old complimentary FFD dining coupons!!!
I thought this is supposed to be a slow week for flying......
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Old Sep 16, 21, 2:47 pm
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Why can't AA duplicate what we see in these above pictures in an airplane?
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Old Sep 16, 21, 3:04 pm
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Originally Posted by ijgordon View Post
I don't actually recognize any of the FFD red wines, but the Hermann Weimer Riesling is pretty good. Prob ~$20 retail.
I Googled the Hourglass "HG III" Napa Valley Red Blend. It's a blend of 75% Merlot, 20% Cabernet Sauvignon and 5% Petite Syrah which retails in California for $45-50.
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Old Sep 16, 21, 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by sportsguymichael View Post
It’s Thursday at 4 pm and the Flagship Lounge at JFK is PACKED!!! There are no empty seats. I have never seen the Flagship Lounge this crowded. There must be a couple of hundred people in here. I wish I had one of my old complimentary FFD dining coupons!!!
That is absolute peak hour for JFK, there is a good 4 hour time frame when JFK is packed but not during those hours its super nice. More people know about flagship lounge access top, the longer these lounges are open the more people figure out they can get in. You would be super surprised by how many flyers don't realize they have access to these nice lounges. Was the flagship bridge open while you were there? Its a bummer its connected now because that was one of the best benefits!
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Old Sep 16, 21, 3:07 pm
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Why can't AA duplicate what we see in these above pictures in an airplane?
It is significantly more expensive and logistically way more complex, and they have to deal with the whole FA issue
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Old Sep 16, 21, 3:07 pm
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Originally Posted by PHL View Post
The correlation should be for which airports have the most flagship service flights, which PHL has never had any. But if they were building a lounge then it leads me to believe that marketing some routes would follow..
MIA has a lot of international destinations, but they don't all have flagship service. LAX has just LHR a few times per day as a passenger flight with FS, but also has JFK, BOS and MIA that also have FS.
PHL currently has 5 European routes, but none offer flagship service at the moment. Prior to the pandemic, PHL had 2x+ that many European routes in peak season

Obviously, this map is a moving target until the pandemic is better under control on a global scale.
https://www.aacargo.com/downloads/Do...0121d-2021.pdf
All of the PHL-Europe flights were, are, and will be in the future Flagship Business product. It's what the international business class product is just called (minus some short-haul business). Have a look at the menus from those routes. They will all say Flagship Business.
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Old Sep 16, 21, 4:01 pm
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What are people's take on the FFD red wines?
4/5 domestic = blah.

But I'll be doing Champagne when that time comes, so I'm not bothered too much.
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Old Sep 16, 21, 4:18 pm
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Originally Posted by GrumpyYoungMan View Post
4/5 domestic = blah.

But I'll be doing Champagne when that time comes, so I'm not bothered too much.
I'm up for trying the wines. If not satisfactory, the Macallan 18yr is there.
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Old Sep 16, 21, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by happiest_at_40000 View Post
Nice looking plate..

How was breakfast? Always seems like lunch/dinner were better but maybe just because how elevated can breakfast really be. Although at LAX FFD I swear they had a diff crew who worked 6-11 and then left b/c I had some pretty weak breakfast but quite good main menu options.

Thanks for the pics
I thought both breakfast and lunch were excellent, though I'm no foodie.
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Old Sep 17, 21, 7:39 pm
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As a EXP traveling internationally was allowed access to flagship first dining JFK. Maybe this is a sign of things to come, no reports of this on flyer talk but 2 others in the EXP facebook group have reported this as well.
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