Flagship Lounges and Flagship First Dining to start reopening September 2021
Nov 21, 22, 7:51 pm
#1651
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: AA EXP, DL Diamond, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Ambassador (RIP SPG), Aeroplan 75K
Posts: 841
Originally Posted by remedy
Last time I asked (2 weeks ago) I got an "eye roll" with the comment that it will be a long way off. This was after getting rejected at the BA lounge.
What grounds did they reject you on? Things were looking “up” this summer, at least when I accessed it a few times.
Nov 21, 22, 7:53 pm
#1652
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Join Date: Sep 2019
Programs: AA: CK
Posts: 2,231
Originally Posted by jcain
Can't imagine AA would still be running the A321T if they weren't actually selling the premium seats – economics would make no sense. At least in my experience, J is often almost full on LAX<>JFK well before upgrade windows. For example, most 11/28-11/29 LAX-JFK flights are J0 right now. If anything, based on some anecdotes on here, I'd guess that F on the transcons has a higher percentage of award/upgrade/non-rev than J.
The workaround here is to allow only paid J into the higher level lounge. But of course, all support for this would suddenly disappear in this forum.
Last edited by BlooJoo; Nov 21, 22 at 7:58 pm
Nov 21, 22, 8:00 pm
#1653
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: KHOU/KIAH
Programs: AA "mid tier" elite | Marriott Bonvoy Ambassador | Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 9,320
Originally Posted by BlooJoo
The mid-tier “platinums” here worrying about which lounge they’re in are almost exclusively upgraders. FTers in this forum who actually pay J/F are almost exclusively CK. Those are the two groups of FTers: midtiers worrying about upgrades and which level of lounge they’re in and CKs who pay for it. The non-CK FTers here riding J earned their status though credit cards and upgraded into J.
The workaround here is to allow only paid J into the higher level lounge. But of course, all support for this would suddenly disappear in this forum.
The workaround here is to allow only paid J into the higher level lounge. But of course, all support for this would suddenly disappear in this forum.
I'd love to see your data. But of course, it doesn't exist
Last edited by Antarius; Nov 21, 22 at 8:07 pm
Nov 21, 22, 8:14 pm
#1655
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: AA EXP, DL Diamond, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Ambassador (RIP SPG), Aeroplan 75K
Posts: 841
Originally Posted by BlooJoo
The mid-tier “platinums” here worrying about which lounge they’re in are almost exclusively upgraders. FTers in this forum who actually pay J/F are almost exclusively CK. Those are the two groups of FTers: midtiers worrying about upgrades and which level of lounge they’re in and CKs who pay for it. The non-CK FTers here riding J earned their status though credit cards and upgraded into J.
Nov 21, 22, 8:27 pm
#1656
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Join Date: Sep 2019
Programs: AA: CK
Posts: 2,231
Originally Posted by ryanbriar
Seems like a pretty broad-based comment. As one who pays for F / J and is not currently a CK (and limited LPs via CCs), I care about whether I have access to the Chelsea lounge on arrival from a paid Tcon F flight (while it lasts). The bottom line is that the access rules will likely follow BA’s current set up.
Nov 21, 22, 9:07 pm
#1657
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EXP, SPG Gold
Posts: 174
Originally Posted by BlooJoo
The mid-tier “platinums” here worrying about which lounge they’re in are almost exclusively upgraders. FTers in this forum who actually pay J/F are almost exclusively CK. Those are the two groups of FTers: midtiers worrying about upgrades and which level of lounge they’re in and CKs who pay for it. The non-CK FTers here riding J earned their status though credit cards and upgraded into J.
Nov 21, 22, 10:43 pm
#1658
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
Posts: 5,657
Originally Posted by BlooJoo
...FTers in this forum who actually pay J/F are almost exclusively CK. ...
I pay for plenty of INTL J... not CK. Granted discounted INTL J... but INTL J none the less.
I think your comment is way off. But, I admit I don't have the facts to back my thought up.
Nov 22, 22, 12:18 am
#1659
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: SFO
Programs: AY Plat, LH FTL
Posts: 6,818
I wouldn't take anyone too seriously who earned CK by paying for AA premium cabins. I'm understanding of the desire to differentiate their tier from EXP. They need some justification for all of that spend and they sure has heck aren't getting it in the air
The smart ones are the free agents who pick and choose who to fly based solely on his or her own priorities. The bawlers are the ones doing it exclusively in paid premium cabins.
The smart ones are the free agents who pick and choose who to fly based solely on his or her own priorities. The bawlers are the ones doing it exclusively in paid premium cabins.
Nov 22, 22, 2:08 am
#1660
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: AA CK (3MM), Marriott LTT (former Ambassador), Uber One, UA Silver
Posts: 1,144
Originally Posted by Ned13
I'm somewhat afraid of beating a dead horse...but are there any hints regarding the PHL FF lounge? I have flights in March and August of NY to EUR and would love for it to be open by then.
Nov 22, 22, 7:16 am
#1662
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: AA EXP, DL Diamond, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Ambassador (RIP SPG), Aeroplan 75K
Posts: 841
Originally Posted by BlooJoo
Likely have access after transcon F.
Nov 22, 22, 1:27 pm
#1663
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: PHL/LAX
Programs: American Airlines Platinum Pro, AmEx Membership Rewards
Posts: 533
Originally Posted by Ned13
I'm somewhat afraid of beating a dead horse...but are there any hints regarding the PHL FF lounge? I have flights in March and August of NY to EUR and would love for it to be open by then.
Nov 22, 22, 3:31 pm
#1664
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Phoenix/Columbus
Programs: Delta Silver Medallion, United Gold, US Airways silver
Posts: 1,667
Originally Posted by ryanbriar
Too bad, but not surprising.
What grounds did they reject you on? Things were looking “up” this summer, at least when I accessed it a few times.
What grounds did they reject you on? Things were looking “up” this summer, at least when I accessed it a few times.
There have been several posts on this and most find it is difficult to get admitted to the BA club unless you are on BA.
Nov 23, 22, 10:28 am
#1665
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: AA EXP, DL Diamond, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Ambassador (RIP SPG), Aeroplan 75K
Posts: 841
Originally Posted by remedy
They said they were full with BA business customers. Could see through the windows, and it was not that crowded. I was on AA business to ZRH and pleaded my case. Got rejected on the trip home too. I the past, I have been admitted as a OW Sapphire on a domestic flight, but it look some persuading ("I fly BA business from PHX - LHR several times per year" - mostly true)
There have been several posts on this and most find it is difficult to get admitted to the BA club unless you are on BA.
There have been several posts on this and most find it is difficult to get admitted to the BA club unless you are on BA.
