happiest_at_40000

Similar issues @ JFK whether it be lazy employee, lack of understanding of food, major issues in the kitchen I think MIA is the only one at least giving top notch service. DFW is younger workers and not as polished.

ryanbriar

Great visit to the JFK FFD yesterday. Spent quite a lengthy layover there (by design) so I was able to grab both breakfast and dinner. Service was solid and attentive. LPGS and JW Blue were on offer.


Breakfast menu



Omelette - quite good.



Crostini Trio. They were good, though would not recommend if you are actively on a computer etc. as your hands will be covered in the spread.



Shawarma - one of my favorites. It is the right amount of food. I was also going to try the mahi, but I ran out of time.



Lunch / dinner menu. No liquor list. Had a quick glass of JW Blue before walking to the gate.



Have enough LPGS and Blue Label and you’ll be set also - at least at JFK - FFD is a bit of an oasis from the main lounge during peak times.

FlyerBeek

Have there been any further updates/rumors on the reopening of LAX FFD in the last two months? LAX has got to have far more daily Flagship F seats (and competition) compared to DFW, yet LAX FFD still remains closed.

-FlyerBeek

Amil

last week when I was in Flagship LAX the agent said your guess is better then mine lol

beachfan

Can confirm flagship lounge going downhill since my last visit in late May.

Beef was ok, but I don’t eat much beef. Fish cooked as long as the beef and almost liquified (even when a fresh tray was brought out).

Other than the blue, the cheese was poor, either American (or inoffensive bland cheddar), and chemically flavored “smoked” Gouda cheese. Couscous salad- just couscous. Chicken noodle soup somehow worse than last time (I liked it last time. Not this time).. Of course, the bread was done where in between fresh and lacrosse ball.

Desserts poor (said my wife, who has more of a sweet tooth). My wife prefers her black and white cookies stale so that was in sync with there service)

Wine selection was at least old world (more to my taste), I guess adequate although cheap (but that was expected).

I’d say booze was decent with six scotches (Glenfidfich 12 the best and the only one that truly interested me), 5 gins, and 4 tequila (including Casamigos), and Courvousier VSOP ( not my choice by a long shot but at least not VS like at BA galleries ). Wish the wine was on par with the hard liquor.

No salad. I suppose mortadella and salami fans might have been content.

I haven’t been this month, but LAX FL in late June (at breakfast) was actually good.

One plus, don’t remember luggage racks in the shower before, just the combo stool/rack. They had both this time, a real improvement in one area at least.

will go back to brining a sandwich from Katz’s or a chicken parm from Parm for the flight home.

arabiamark

Probably needs China/Hong Kong and the rest of East Asia travel to get back to normal before it happens.

sowhatwegetdrunk

Sorry if this was asked. Booked DFW-ORD-AUH using AA miles. DFW-ORD on AA first, ORD-AUH on Etihad business.

Will I have access to the flagship lounge in Chicago?

Website says its allowed for oneworld business passengers - https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...hip-lounge.jsp

Since Etihad is not a oneworld airline, I am not sure if we will be allowed to enter.

Have a 7 hour layover in Chicago, so open to checking out other lounges as well. Thanks!

JJeffrey

Unfortunately no FL access since EY is not a oneworld member. You can use whatever 3rd party lounge EY has partnered with at ORD. Unfortunately all of lounges at T5 completely suck though.

With 7 hours I might even consider a day pass to the AC, it will be busy and not exactly opulent but nicer than anything at T5, especially with that much time.

sowhatwegetdrunk

Shoot. Thats going to suck. Is it YMMV or a hard no for etihad business passengers? : ( Is this a recent change? I definitely remember getting into the AA lounge on one of my Etihad business flight in ORD

No priority pass lounge option, no plaza lounge, no centurion too. ORD seems like not a good one for long Etihad layovers anymore : (

JJeffrey

It's been like this forever, oneworld rules have never allowed access when departing on a non-oneworld carrier.

And unless you just happen to get a completely uninformed agent it's a hard no.

If it were me, I would probably just show up at the AC/FL and hand them my BP to AUH and not say anything, on the off chance they let you in great, but assuming they say "sorry EY business doesn't provide access" then just pay the $59 for a day pass.

Bradhattan

Maybe a purchased day pass to FL $150 (?) however not sure if your flight is eligible for that. If yes, $150 for 7 hours is a no brainer.

edit- terminal transfer required unless the move of international arrivals from T5 has occurred

FlyFreakquently

Anyone know if the Flagship Lounge “bridge” at JFK is open? I’m passing through on Thursday and both times I’ve been to the FL this year I’ve completely forgot to check.

JJeffrey

Based on posts from earlier this summer in the dedicated JFK FL Thread the bridge is no longer open, the space is under construction for the future BA lounges.

FlyFreakquently

Thank you for that. I knew there had to be a thread specifically about the JFK FL, I just couldn’t find it.

That’s too bad about the bridge. It seemed like a wonderful respite from the usually-bustling main lounge.

jljones78

Stopped by the ORD FL yesterday. Piper-Heidsieck offered at the door. Staff was very friendly as usual. This lounge has always sort of struck me as the most similar to a good AC, whereas (IMO) DFW and MIA are clearly a step above.

The food selection was pretty abysmal -- sad looking/tasting Italian beef sliders, heirloom cauliflower, mashed sweet potatoes, some salads, charcuterie and gas station-looking sushi (Philadelphia rolls and veggie rolls). Maybe I missed the more substantial entrees as I got there late and there was only the ORD LHR 9:15p left. They had a menu up that looked pretty good, but none of that food was out at 7:30p, which seemed odd. There were stations set up with sweets all over the lounge, but that's not really my thing.

Besides the Piper they had a mid-range dry German Riesling from the Mosel, an Italian still rose, and Italian chardonnay, and Round Pond Sauvignon Blanc for the white/pink offerings. For the reds they had a 2019 Vietti Perbacco Nebbiolo that's nice but too young for my taste, 2018/2019 Textbook Cabernet which was fine, and a Pinot Noir I can't recall. With all the Italian wines I felt like I was flying TATL with a Bobby Stuckey list circa 2017. I poured tasters of all these but didn't finish any, as I preferred the Piper over everything at the bar. The retail price range of these wines was probably $15-30, so the Piper really stands out in that regard. There was a large selection of spirits and plenty of beers, including a couple of local brews.

AA isn't flying much international these days out of ORD, and it seems like it's showing at this FL.