LAX-HNL A321Neo First Class Expectations mid July 2021?
Jun 2, 2021, 1:09 pm
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I fly PHX-OGG a few times a year and it is a nice new plane that A321 NEO.
What's the complaint?
Jun 2, 2021, 1:21 pm
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Jun 2, 2021, 1:26 pm
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I am against the A321neo or other twin narrow body jets flying to Hawaii. That feeling is not just across the Pacific but also across the Atlantic to Europe. I don't feel comfortable or safe when flying narrow body jets over the water for such long distance especially when encountering turbulence. It is just a personal feeling.
“The A321neo long-range capabilities include ETOPS certification. ETOPS stands for Extended-range Twin-engine Operational Performance Standards. It may sound complicated, but this means that the aircraft can fly further from a diversion airport than non-ETOPS certified aircraft. While this may not matter so much flying over land, it is especially useful for flying long distances over water. The certification means that the aircraft is now able to fly up to 180 minutes from a diversion airport on 1 engine.” — SimpleFlying
Brief version: https://www.sheffield.com/articles/e...d-how-it-works
More extensive information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETOPS
ICAO and EDTO: https://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/...nge_Operations
Jun 2, 2021, 1:32 pm
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The Airbus A321XLR will have 800 nautical miles of extra range over its predecessor (Boeing 757-200) with higher capacity as well: Up to 200 passengers in a two or three-class layout.
“If and when we fly it to close-in Europe, that would require lie-flat seats, all aisle access for business class…allow for premium economy,” American Airlines President Robert Isom said via View from the Wing last July.With this information, it would make sense if the A321XLR’s layout featured 1-1 business class, 2-2 in premium economy, and 3-3 in economy. — SimpleFlying
“If and when we fly it to close-in Europe, that would require lie-flat seats, all aisle access for business class…allow for premium economy,” American Airlines President Robert Isom said via View from the Wing last July.With this information, it would make sense if the A321XLR’s layout featured 1-1 business class, 2-2 in premium economy, and 3-3 in economy. — SimpleFlying
Jun 2, 2021, 1:46 pm
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That is a fair assumption, given that UA uses B752 with lie-flat to do short-haul TATL. AA can absolutely do the same with A321neo.
Jun 2, 2021, 2:27 pm
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And as far as Hawaii and narrow body, US flew PHX-Hawaii using B757's for quite a while.
I'm sure that AA will use the A321neo for TA flying, perhaps between some of those same PHL-Europe markets.
I wasn't aware of AA's flying at the time, so I don't know if AA also flew any narrow bodies to Europe or Hawaii before the merger.
Jun 2, 2021, 2:48 pm
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Jun 2, 2021, 2:56 pm
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or PHX.
I am always taking a 6.5 hr nonstop in an A321neo over connecting somewhere just for a lie-flat (I haven’t flown in anything but J/F in the last 4 years on international flights so I have a lot of experience with widebodies.)
I am always taking a 6.5 hr nonstop in an A321neo over connecting somewhere just for a lie-flat (I haven’t flown in anything but J/F in the last 4 years on international flights so I have a lot of experience with widebodies.)
Jun 2, 2021, 3:35 pm
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This has come up regularly in this forum. For years before the AA merger, US flew B757's from PHL to several TA destinations (I think even a few from CLT).
And as far as Hawaii and narrow body, US flew PHX-Hawaii using B757's for quite a while.
I'm sure that AA will use the A321neo for TA flying, perhaps between some of those same PHL-Europe markets.
I wasn't aware of AA's flying at the time, so I don't know if AA also flew any narrow bodies to Europe or Hawaii before the merger.
And as far as Hawaii and narrow body, US flew PHX-Hawaii using B757's for quite a while.
I'm sure that AA will use the A321neo for TA flying, perhaps between some of those same PHL-Europe markets.
I wasn't aware of AA's flying at the time, so I don't know if AA also flew any narrow bodies to Europe or Hawaii before the merger.
Jun 2, 2021, 4:07 pm
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Good to know! Was curious because some people just have a psychological thing where flying over the ocean automatically feels like long-haul, and it feels wrong to them to have a narrow-body plane.
Jun 2, 2021, 4:38 pm
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If you're at 27 degrees north and 135 degrees west and are en route to HNL, and you have an engine shutdown or someone has a heart attack or if there is a depressurization, there is nothing you can do for the next 120 minutes until you reach ITO.
Jun 2, 2021, 5:12 pm
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What does no WIFI have to do with needing a battery pack? Is there power outlet at seat or not? That would seem to be the more relevant question.
Jun 2, 2021, 6:00 pm
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