Why did AA sell their Airbus A330's?
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Why did AA sell their Airbus A330's?
Delta is buying new ones. AA has gotten rid of the 332 and 333's. It's not like they have an issue with using Airbus aircraft. How different really is Delta's network and American's that one chooses this aircraft and another doesn't?
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American Airlines has 67 Boeing 777s in its fleet, consisting of 47 -200ERs and 20 -300ERs. Additionally, AA has 40+ Boeing 787s consisting of -8s and -9s.
AA had a smaller widebody Airbus fleet, which consisted of 24 Airbus A330s pre-COVID (15 -200s and 9 -300s).
The A330-300s were set to leave the fleet within the next few years and be replaced by upcoming 787-9s. In contrast, AA had just begun to retrofit the A330-200s with new Economy Class seats and recently finished adding Premium Economy. However, because of the downturn in long-haul/international demand with COVID, AA chose to cut costs and simplify its fleet, which also included the early retirement of all Boeing 757s and 767s. Essentially, instead of operating a complex fleet with numerous aircraft variants, AA will simply focus on two widebody Families - the Boeing 777 and 787 - and two narrowbody Families - the Boeing 737 and Airbus A320.
As for Delta, don't forget they had a similar strategy, but it favors Airbus over Boeing. They significantly accelerated the retirement of their 18 Boeing 777s, all of which were retired last year. Delta also announced the gradual phase out of Boeing 767s through 2025. Now their widebody fleet going forward is expected to consist of Airbus A330s, A350s, and Boeing 767s. Both of these airlines will continue to see lower international demand over the next few years, so they chose to remove a portion of their widebody fleet and simplify it.
AA had a smaller widebody Airbus fleet, which consisted of 24 Airbus A330s pre-COVID (15 -200s and 9 -300s).
The A330-300s were set to leave the fleet within the next few years and be replaced by upcoming 787-9s. In contrast, AA had just begun to retrofit the A330-200s with new Economy Class seats and recently finished adding Premium Economy. However, because of the downturn in long-haul/international demand with COVID, AA chose to cut costs and simplify its fleet, which also included the early retirement of all Boeing 757s and 767s. Essentially, instead of operating a complex fleet with numerous aircraft variants, AA will simply focus on two widebody Families - the Boeing 777 and 787 - and two narrowbody Families - the Boeing 737 and Airbus A320.
As for Delta, don't forget they had a similar strategy, but it favors Airbus over Boeing. They significantly accelerated the retirement of their 18 Boeing 777s, all of which were retired last year. Delta also announced the gradual phase out of Boeing 767s through 2025. Now their widebody fleet going forward is expected to consist of Airbus A330s, A350s, and Boeing 767s. Both of these airlines will continue to see lower international demand over the next few years, so they chose to remove a portion of their widebody fleet and simplify it.
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The envoy suites on the A330 are the reverse herringbone seats, way better than the zodiac "rockin" chairs on AA's 788 and half of 772. LAA was the one had the featureless 752 and 763 aka no in seat PTV and instead hand out ipads and collect them two hours before landing
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The A332s were leased from AerCap (nee ILFC). I think the A333s were owned, but I can't be sure.
I think AA are on record on earnings calls as saying the fleet strategy was to get rid of mini fleets like the A330s, I'm nearly certain they were planning these retirements pre COVID too.
Big loss for the Y PaxEx for sure, you just can't beat 2-4-2 over the Atlantic. Those MCE's on the RHS of the A332s were the best long haul economy seats in the fleet imo.
I think AA are on record on earnings calls as saying the fleet strategy was to get rid of mini fleets like the A330s, I'm nearly certain they were planning these retirements pre COVID too.
Big loss for the Y PaxEx for sure, you just can't beat 2-4-2 over the Atlantic. Those MCE's on the RHS of the A332s were the best long haul economy seats in the fleet imo.
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I thought the A330 seats seemed quite dated stylistically, and in a few ways lacked the privacy features of the newer seats, but they were the first reverse herringbone seats put in by a US airline.
I'll miss the 2-4-2 layout in economy.
I'll miss the 2-4-2 layout in economy.
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US was a pretty bare-bones airline so these aircraft were ordered with pretty basic appointments though I never really understood the weird light faux wood wallpaper they decide to put on the bulkheads in J and on the side tables. That always seemed really out of place on the aircraft and gave the J cabin the feel of a locker room or something.
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The A330s serving CLT and PHL were ex US Airways. AA is putting 787s on plenty of routes in PHL and CLT moving forward. AA still purchases A321 series. So they use both Boeing end Airbus.
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