Current Transcon F/J service?
#16
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i know when i saw the most recent pics (from end of 2013) i thought to myself "WOW these are so old" then realised oh, it was only 2013. so its a mix of feelings.
but it did make me miss the sundae and the cold glass plate they'd serve the salads on in F along with the middle throne seat. lots of good memories on that plane. cant say i readily recall many great ones on the a321t's except thinking "wow they went cheap on the seat padding here huh?"
but it did make me miss the sundae and the cold glass plate they'd serve the salads on in F along with the middle throne seat. lots of good memories on that plane. cant say i readily recall many great ones on the a321t's except thinking "wow they went cheap on the seat padding here huh?"
#18
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Weekend Transcon Experience
Just flew JFK-LAX in F on the 321T over the weekend (using BXP1 upgrade that cleared T-56). 1 and 1 seating and only 7 occupied F seats. Woodford on ice before takeoff; Rose Rock Pinot Noir to pair with the sea bass; Whitehall Lane Cabernet Sauvignon for dessert. Two espressos served before arrival.
Fastest six-hour flight ever. Received text message from gate agent when boarding commenced. Received telephone call from gate agent confirming I was headed to the gate. Awesome service on the ground and in the air. Congratulations, AA.
Fastest six-hour flight ever. Received text message from gate agent when boarding commenced. Received telephone call from gate agent confirming I was headed to the gate. Awesome service on the ground and in the air. Congratulations, AA.
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i know when i saw the most recent pics (from end of 2013) i thought to myself "WOW these are so old" then realised oh, it was only 2013. so its a mix of feelings.
but it did make me miss the sundae and the cold glass plate they'd serve the salads on in F along with the middle throne seat. lots of good memories on that plane. cant say i readily recall many great ones on the a321t's except thinking "wow they went cheap on the seat padding here huh?"
but it did make me miss the sundae and the cold glass plate they'd serve the salads on in F along with the middle throne seat. lots of good memories on that plane. cant say i readily recall many great ones on the a321t's except thinking "wow they went cheap on the seat padding here huh?"
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Just flew JFK-LAX in F on the 321T over the weekend (using BXP1 upgrade that cleared T-56). 1 and 1 seating and only 7 occupied F seats. Woodford on ice before takeoff; Rose Rock Pinot Noir to pair with the sea bass; Whitehall Lane Cabernet Sauvignon for dessert. Two espressos served before arrival.
Fastest six-hour flight ever. Received text message from gate agent when boarding commenced. Received telephone call from gate agent confirming I was headed to the gate. Awesome service on the ground and in the air. Congratulations, AA.
Fastest six-hour flight ever. Received text message from gate agent when boarding commenced. Received telephone call from gate agent confirming I was headed to the gate. Awesome service on the ground and in the air. Congratulations, AA.
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#22
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I just think without the First class jfk lounge, F on the 321 feels like J on the 772 plus an espresso
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#24
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sorry this is not specific to current service but i didnt want to start a new thread for a basic question:
since its been a while (bc of covid) i forgot what the difference is between the evening flight meals in F-- what is lost going on a later "snack" service v dinner in F? (normal times, not covid service)
since its been a while (bc of covid) i forgot what the difference is between the evening flight meals in F-- what is lost going on a later "snack" service v dinner in F? (normal times, not covid service)
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#25
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Here is a pre-Covid review of LAX-JFK redeye F showing example late-night menu and food.
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#26
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As I recall (this was J but F is probably very similar), the premium transcon "snack" was like a normal midcon domestic F meal -- mostly served on one tray, with preplated dessert (no sundae option). Still plenty of food.
Here is a pre-Covid review of LAX-JFK redeye F showing example late-night menu and food.
Here is a pre-Covid review of LAX-JFK redeye F showing example late-night menu and food.
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Back to the days for a 9pm/10:30pm transcon F, I would arrive at the airport between 6pm and 7pm (it's LAX's off-peak time -- not too many cars at curbside and empty TSA), ample time for a multi-course dinner and a few flutes of Krug at FFD, some work done and a shower. Then I'll just sleep all the way through the flight and, if there's time, have a nice breakfast at JFK FFD. Food quality @ FFD is much higher than whatever was served onboard. From my memory (based on menu), redeye J and F serve very similar food, if not the exact same, with exceptions of upgraded beverage offerings and quicker service in F.
Ah the good old days. Honestly if FFD never gets reopened I would not consider FFirst.
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For me, I would intentionally book a long layover at LAX.
Back to the days for a 9pm/10:30pm transcon F, I would arrive at the airport between 6pm and 7pm (it's LAX's off-peak time -- not too many cars at curbside and empty TSA), ample time for a multi-course dinner and a few flutes of Krug at FFD, some work done and a shower. Then I'll just sleep all the way through the flight and, if there's time, have a nice breakfast at JFK FFD. Food quality @ FFD is much higher than whatever was served onboard. From my memory (based on menu), redeye J and F serve very similar food, if not the exact same, with exceptions of upgraded beverage offerings and quicker service in F.
Ah the good old days. Honestly if FFD never gets reopened I would not consider FFirst.
Back to the days for a 9pm/10:30pm transcon F, I would arrive at the airport between 6pm and 7pm (it's LAX's off-peak time -- not too many cars at curbside and empty TSA), ample time for a multi-course dinner and a few flutes of Krug at FFD, some work done and a shower. Then I'll just sleep all the way through the flight and, if there's time, have a nice breakfast at JFK FFD. Food quality @ FFD is much higher than whatever was served onboard. From my memory (based on menu), redeye J and F serve very similar food, if not the exact same, with exceptions of upgraded beverage offerings and quicker service in F.
Ah the good old days. Honestly if FFD never gets reopened I would not consider FFirst.
as for red-eyes generally--my days are over. my body hates them and generally i have no reason to do them other than coming home to the UK...which is why im in F--for the privacy and the BA tier points
#29
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Just to note that currently, even if you had plenty of time to eat in Flagship Dining, you wouldn't be able to, as FFD and the Flagship Lounge are closed, instead operating as an Admirals Club.
#30
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Some recent data points - specifically on the LAX - MIA red eye (11:45PM). This was in J on 77W a few days ago.
They served the usual dinner options despite showing online as brunch. No PBD but a pretty efficient crew.
Oddly enough the menus were printed on office paper vs. the normal card stock. Has anyone else ever seen this?
They served the usual dinner options despite showing online as brunch. No PBD but a pretty efficient crew.
Oddly enough the menus were printed on office paper vs. the normal card stock. Has anyone else ever seen this?