December 2020 schedule changes, including holiday suspensions (100k fewer flights)
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December 2020 schedule changes, including holiday suspensions (100k fewer flights)
Is the December schedule change this weekend or next weekend?
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Bulk of November changes were loaded over weekend of 10/3 -- https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1452573. Doubt December changes will be loaded this weekend.
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I was coincidentally looking for an ORD-LGA in late December and while the schedules haven't been culled, all the nonstops have the lower fare buckets closed out (just selling M for economy). The full range of fare buckets appear to be available thru 12/16 so either there's a schedule change coming or they're very clumsily trying to revenue manage around Christmas
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I was coincidentally looking for an ORD-LGA in late December and while the schedules haven't been culled, all the nonstops have the lower fare buckets closed out (just selling M for economy). The full range of fare buckets appear to be available thru 12/16 so either there's a schedule change coming or they're very clumsily trying to revenue manage around Christmas
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I have a trip that spans the end of November / beginning of December. My outbound changed in the last schedule change last month by a few hours and actually worked for my trip and there was no change to the return.
Now seeing this thread and since my return is December 1st I am thinking that maybe it still is at risk for a change next weekend. I looked at the flights on the 30th and they are much different than what is showing on the 2nd. If it happens I hope it is a pretty significant change as I am starting to think that we might not want to go due to covid (we booked in June when I thought it would be leveling off by thanksgiving).
It is no longer a 2hr schedule change but is now 4hr to cancel with a refund, right?
Now seeing this thread and since my return is December 1st I am thinking that maybe it still is at risk for a change next weekend. I looked at the flights on the 30th and they are much different than what is showing on the 2nd. If it happens I hope it is a pretty significant change as I am starting to think that we might not want to go due to covid (we booked in June when I thought it would be leveling off by thanksgiving).
It is no longer a 2hr schedule change but is now 4hr to cancel with a refund, right?
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I have a trip that spans the end of November / beginning of December. My outbound changed in the last schedule change last month by a few hours and actually worked for my trip and there was no change to the return.
Now seeing this thread and since my return is December 1st I am thinking that maybe it still is at risk for a change next weekend. I looked at the flights on the 30th and they are much different than what is showing on the 2nd. If it happens I hope it is a pretty significant change as I am starting to think that we might not want to go due to covid (we booked in June when I thought it would be leveling off by thanksgiving).
It is no longer a 2hr schedule change but is now 4hr to cancel with a refund, right?
Now seeing this thread and since my return is December 1st I am thinking that maybe it still is at risk for a change next weekend. I looked at the flights on the 30th and they are much different than what is showing on the 2nd. If it happens I hope it is a pretty significant change as I am starting to think that we might not want to go due to covid (we booked in June when I thought it would be leveling off by thanksgiving).
It is no longer a 2hr schedule change but is now 4hr to cancel with a refund, right?
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It is all in one record. It appears there is no schedule change for the return but that is December 1. So my real question is when they do the monthly schedule changes does it tend to be a full month, so the last one (end of September) was Nov 1 - Nov 30, and for a Dec 1 flight is subject to the "normal" December schedule changes done the last weekend in October.
Not a big deal - just saw this thread and it got me thinking about how they do the "monthly" schedule changes. I have a feeling it might be next weekend that December 1 changes are released, though that does not mean there will be one.
Not a big deal - just saw this thread and it got me thinking about how they do the "monthly" schedule changes. I have a feeling it might be next weekend that December 1 changes are released, though that does not mean there will be one.
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It is all in one record. It appears there is no schedule change for the return but that is December 1. So my real question is when they do the monthly schedule changes does it tend to be a full month, so the last one (end of September) was Nov 1 - Nov 30, and for a Dec 1 flight is subject to the "normal" December schedule changes done the last weekend in October.
Not a big deal - just saw this thread and it got me thinking about how they do the "monthly" schedule changes. I have a feeling it might be next weekend that December 1 changes are released, though that does not mean there will be one.
Not a big deal - just saw this thread and it got me thinking about how they do the "monthly" schedule changes. I have a feeling it might be next weekend that December 1 changes are released, though that does not mean there will be one.
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I was coincidentally looking for an ORD-LGA in late December and while the schedules haven't been culled, all the nonstops have the lower fare buckets closed out (just selling M for economy). The full range of fare buckets appear to be available thru 12/16 so either there's a schedule change coming or they're very clumsily trying to revenue manage around Christmas
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I don't think so - still in there as only M class available on the days I'm looking (12/22-23) with the full schedule (but N is available on a variety of connecting itineraries which is odd). I'll see what it looks like after this weekend when I assume schedule changes will go in.
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Thanks - we are thinking just want to cancel and get our money back so hoping for a big enough schedule change this weekend to be able to do that. In June we somehow thought that it would be OK to travel / visit family in November and now we are not really sure when that is going to be true.
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LAX -> HNL has been upgaged to a 787, but the frequency is down to 1x daily. The premium y cabin is being sold as y!