Originally Posted by javabytes
(Post 32738133)
You never exceed the speed limit either, do you. Because that would be illegal, and the laws are clear.
And in case you're wondering, not everyone cheats on their taxes, either. |
Originally Posted by Croupier
(Post 32736886)
Right on bro. I remember flying on TG from BKK-BNE about 8 years ago l, swiping my credit card through the IFE remote and talking away. Man people have become so precious. May as well just ban talking while inflight? Do people that think talking on a phone inflight is a no no ok with a business meeting for 4 in Qsuites? |
Originally Posted by BlooJoo
(Post 32738121)
What on earth does the OP's wife's opinion have to do with this?
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Originally Posted by UKtravelbear
(Post 32739055)
OP is (as per post 20) travelling with his wife. She may prefer to be talking to her husband than him to be calling his office.
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Originally Posted by gateH15
(Post 32737532)
ive joined zoom calls many times, always in listen only mode and FAs were able to see my screen that I’m watching something on my laptops screen. No one ever said anything, but I also would never try to talk. Always type response in the chat if needed. I know that calls are not allowed in flight but I don’t see how watching abs listening to a zoom meeting is different from streaming Netflix.
Half the time you're allowed streaming, half the time you aren't... |
Originally Posted by dvs7310
(Post 32739018)
This... I find the pettiness around this hilarious. It wasn't that long ago that the airfones were at every row, though rarely used because fairly expensive. Equally ridiculous, I live in Japan and you're not allowed to talk on the phone inside the commuter trains here though it's perfectly fine to talk to your friends, even drunkenly late at night, loud and stumbling around.
I can probably assure you that those tipsy riders will be ultra respectful on the 7am train when everybody is going to work. On the other hand, if your judgement is not impaired by alcohol and you are aware of your actions, it is common courtesy not to disturb others in a metal tube packed like sardines. As the plain is loud, it is impossible to have a phone conversation without raising your voice to annoying levels. |
Really - it is expected to have drunk loud annoying people on a train and it is ok because they are unable/unwilling to control their alcohol consumption? Are people not responsible for their own actions?
loud oobnoxious drunks are more annoying than people on telephones Outside US, there are plenty of flights I have been on where mobile phone use is permitted in flight and has been completely no issue Biggest issue of inflight internet would seem to be performance and port blocking |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 32739807)
Really - it is expected to have drunk loud annoying people on a train and it is ok because they are unable/unwilling to control their alcohol consumption? Are people not responsible for their own actions?
loud oobnoxious drunks are more annoying than people on telephones Outside US, there are plenty of flights I have been on where mobile phone use is permitted in flight and has been completely no issue Biggest issue of inflight internet would seem to be performance and port blocking Honestly, if the OP wanted to only listen in and offer feedback through text chat, I'd have no problem with that. But we don't need a world where the F cabin is full of people on meetings trying to talk louder than the person next to them. |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 32739807)
Really - it is expected to have drunk loud annoying people on a train and it is ok because they are unable/unwilling to control their alcohol consumption?
Late at night, in most cities of the world, there are people that have had a few drinks and are loud. I did not say stumbling around or to the point of blacking out, that's not ok. I see a lot of people on their way or coming back from having fun on a weekend night in the metros (mass public transportation) of Berlin, Amsterdam, etc . They are not intentionally planning to bother other people. I don't think anybody is making a generalized statement that getting drunk and boarding metros is ok Again, it is a matter of courtesy and etiquette. You want to have a loud conversation on your next 7am flight to DFW and annoy the whole cabin? Fine, go ahead if you can and you want. "It is a free country". You are being "that guy", FYI and the rest of the annoyed pax are "insert your adjective of choice here (petty, ridiculous, etc). That's cool. It is all good . |
Originally Posted by cmd320
(Post 32734924)
Two-way voice conversations from the air to the ground are not permissible.
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Originally Posted by fatlasercat
(Post 32740468)
How about air to air?
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Originally Posted by 757FO
(Post 32736434)
As a member of the crew (Captain) if you are able to do this, please don't. It will potentially create a huge issue with the passengers around you, and the cabin crew, which could end up with a diversion and/or police at the gate if you don't comply.
Plus, over the Caribbean, connectivity will be very poor. In some spots, there isn't even radar coverage, let alone decent wifi. Teams and Zoom use the G.711 codec for voice which is 64Kbps for the call. That isn't much at all and would hardly put a dent in overall capacity. I do agree about wifi coverage though. Back in the days of gogo on a 737 to SJU, you had maybe 30 mins of connectivity before it cut out. I'd expect something similar here. |
Originally Posted by bchandler02
(Post 32740506)
I do agree about wifi coverage though. Back in the days of gogo on a 737 to SJU, you had maybe 30 mins of connectivity before it cut out. I'd expect something similar here.
The old ground based system won’t work well but an aircraft with a satellite based system should work fine. |
Originally Posted by carlosdca
(Post 32740037)
late at night on the weekends , yes, which is the scenario discussed.
Late at night, in most cities of the world, there are people that have had a few drinks and are loud. I did not say stumbling around or to the point of blacking out, that's not ok. I see a lot of people on their way or coming back from having fun on a weekend night in the metros (mass public transportation) of Berlin, Amsterdam, etc . They are not intentionally planning to bother other people. I don't think anybody is making a generalized statement that getting drunk and boarding metros is ok Again, it is a matter of courtesy and etiquette. You want to have a loud conversation on your next 7am flight to DFW and annoy the whole cabin? Fine, go ahead if you can and you want. "It is a free country". You are being "that guy", FYI and the rest of the annoyed pax are "insert your adjective of choice here (petty, ridiculous, etc). That's cool. It is all good .
Originally Posted by 757FO
(Post 32737592)
I think the issue would be 2-way conversation more than just watching. Having said that, I suspect you may be killing the bandwidth for others, as it is a shared service. My guess is that if the wi-fi slowed down considerably, one of the FA's would re-boot the system, to see if that fixes it, which may end up interrupting your session. Also, I may be wrong, but I don't believe you can use a streaming service in-flight?
My only concern as a captain is that the rules be respected and followed, and that my passengers and crew are safe. If someone is causing a disruption in the cabin, and won't stop, and it comes to my attention, you can bet there will be police waiting when we land. |
Originally Posted by bchandler02
(Post 32740506)
Can you explain more about what kind of issue it would create that would require police? That seems a little extreme.
Teams and Zoom use the G.711 codec for voice which is 64Kbps for the call. That isn't much at all and would hardly put a dent in overall capacity. I do agree about wifi coverage though. Back in the days of gogo on a 737 to SJU, you had maybe 30 mins of connectivity before it cut out. I'd expect something similar here. Also it's not an issue about how much capacity a single call takes but what if every one starts to join zoom calls or live stream video etc, And if it's just against the the rules to make such calls then how much or little bandwidth is used is neither here nor there. |
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