AA International Inventory - CDG-DFW- Makes No Sense
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AA International Inventory - CDG-DFW- Makes No Sense
OK - worked for a major airline in sales for many years, and I have to admit, I don't get this. Someone please explain. Needed a OW from CDG-DFW on Wednesday, we must have been 20+ passengers on a B777 (I know nice but sad). The seats are unavailable for sale. Same as all of next week, if you check AA.com, economy is sold out for a OW ticket (unless you use FF miles - which I ended up doing), yet the cabin is wide open, very wide open. So then I thought ok, must be cargo (weight & balance) - but no, we only used 1/2 the runway. Unless it is some government controlled limitation, these flights are operating at a HUGE loss. Please send your hypothesis here... Thanks
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IME, for some reason the OW carriers have generally chosen not to offer reasonable one-way TATL fares like *A and ST do. I usually use miles or fly a different carrier (This decision is the only reason I have ever set foot on EI, DE and UX aircraft) as it is hard to justify spending 5x more just to fly OW.
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OK - worked for a major airline in sales for many years, and I have to admit, I don't get this. Someone please explain. Needed a OW from CDG-DFW on Wednesday, we must have been 20+ passengers on a B777 (I know nice but sad). The seats are unavailable for sale. Same as all of next week, if you check AA.com, economy is sold out for a OW ticket (unless you use FF miles - which I ended up doing), yet the cabin is wide open, very wide open. So then I thought ok, must be cargo (weight & balance) - but no, we only used 1/2 the runway. Unless it is some government controlled limitation, these flights are operating at a HUGE loss. Please send your hypothesis here... Thanks
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Looks like a point of sale issue. If you purchase the one-way CDG-DFW from the US, the cheapest fare is in PE (seats are available in Y if you choose "Flexible" fares, but for more $). If you change the Location setting on AAs website to France, and are then able to find a way to purchase a ticket, you can get more reasonable one-way fares in Y (looks like around 800 EUR for next week).
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Something is going on with AA pricing - Many of the International routes are not competitive at all, almost as if they did not want the business. Some people can still travel despite the restrictions, very strange.
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It's been strange and given that all flights are empty - I don't get it either. I booked VIE-MIA-VIE yesterday - with instant Systemwide upgrade - for $550 return. MUC-MIA-MUC where you have (might have) a LH direct flight as compettion in Nov would have been double that price. I get the usual competitive pricing decisions - but right now as flights are empty (my most crowded TATL cabin was VS J a week ago with 3 pax and a total of 24 pax (including 1 baby) on the entire plane) I find it odd how unattractive most AA fares are. BA is a lot cheaper, as is LH etc...
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It's been strange and given that all flights are empty - I don't get it either. I booked VIE-MIA-VIE yesterday - with instant Systemwide upgrade - for $550 return. MUC-MIA-MUC where you have (might have) a LH direct flight as compettion in Nov would have been double that price. I get the usual competitive pricing decisions - but right now as flights are empty (my most crowded TATL cabin was VS J a week ago with 3 pax and a total of 24 pax (including 1 baby) on the entire plane) I find it odd how unattractive most AA fares are. BA is a lot cheaper, as is LH etc...
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That you do not like the fares that it is choosing to offer, does not mean that there is an issue with any employees at the airline ; the pricing may be quite intentional
Simple solution would be to book on a carrier that has the lower fares
Just doing a check on matrix, for r/t journeys with 1 stop , AA's fares seem to be in line with other carriers starting at < $1300 - the lower fares I can see on Matrix all show 2 stops and long journey times
Looking at Brussels fares, it seems about $100 more than the cheapest 1 stop service and $200 more than a 2 stop
Simple solution would be to book on a carrier that has the lower fares
Just doing a check on matrix, for r/t journeys with 1 stop , AA's fares seem to be in line with other carriers starting at < $1300 - the lower fares I can see on Matrix all show 2 stops and long journey times
Looking at Brussels fares, it seems about $100 more than the cheapest 1 stop service and $200 more than a 2 stop
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That could very well be! Last year, it took these "analysts" over a month to figure out a mistake where MIA LAX 77W had J priced four times higher than F when both cabins were entirely empty!
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For myself, I'm doing all I can to avoid extra connections at major airports. I'd really rather not make a double connection to get from Western Europe to the US. It's bad enough to be forced to go through LHR as it is. Though I suppose if everything remains consolidated in Terminal 5, that makes things a little better.