Winter 2020-21 longhaul schedule reductions announced
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Winter 2020-21 longhaul schedule reductions announced
Cranky Traveler sums up AA’s longhaul winter schedule reductions (through 27 Mar 2021). Link
“American Guts Europe This Winter
American has hoping that things would pick up this winter. It boldly decided to fly its full London schedule as the backbone of its European service. It has now come to the realization that this just isn’t going to work. So, schedules are being torn up through the end of March when the IATA winter season ends. Here’s the carnage:
• Boston – London/Heathrow won’t operate
• Charlotte – London/Heathrow cut from 2x daily to 3x weekly
• Charlotte – Munich won’t operate
• Chicago/O’Hare – London/Heathrow cut from 3x daily to 1x daily
• Dallas/Fort Worth – Amsterdam cut from 1x daily to 3x weekly
• Dallas/Fort Worth – Dublin won’t operate
• Dallas/Fort Worth – London/Heathrow cut from 24x weekly to 1x daily
• Los Angeles – London/Heathrow won’t operate
• Miami – Barcelona won’t operate
• Miami – London/Heathrow cut from 2x daily to 1x daily
• New York/JFK – London/Heathrow cut from 27x weekly to 1x daily
• New York/JFK – Paris/CDG won’t operate
• Philadelphia – London/Heathrow won’t operate
• Philadelphia – Madrid won’t operate
• Phoenix – London/Heathrow won’t operate
• Raleigh/Durham – London/Heathrow won’t operate
• Dallas/Fort Worth – Seoul/Incheon drops from 1x daily to 3x weekly
• Dallas/Fort Worth – Hong Kong’s restart has been delayed from October 24 to December 17.
Asia sees a couple cuts as well. Dallas/Fort Worth – Seoul/Incheon drops from 1x daily to 3x weekly through the winter and Dallas/Fort Worth – Hong Kong’s restart has been delayed from October 24 to December 17.The Caribbean sees cuts as well with Bonaire, Curacao, and Grand Cayman having flights pushed back into November and December. Over in the Pacific, Hawai’i sees most restarts pushed until October 15, but LAX to Honolulu also gets cut from 2 daily to 1 for the rest of that month, indicating weakness is still expected.“
“American Guts Europe This Winter
American has hoping that things would pick up this winter. It boldly decided to fly its full London schedule as the backbone of its European service. It has now come to the realization that this just isn’t going to work. So, schedules are being torn up through the end of March when the IATA winter season ends. Here’s the carnage:
• Boston – London/Heathrow won’t operate
• Charlotte – London/Heathrow cut from 2x daily to 3x weekly
• Charlotte – Munich won’t operate
• Chicago/O’Hare – London/Heathrow cut from 3x daily to 1x daily
• Dallas/Fort Worth – Amsterdam cut from 1x daily to 3x weekly
• Dallas/Fort Worth – Dublin won’t operate
• Dallas/Fort Worth – London/Heathrow cut from 24x weekly to 1x daily
• Los Angeles – London/Heathrow won’t operate
• Miami – Barcelona won’t operate
• Miami – London/Heathrow cut from 2x daily to 1x daily
• New York/JFK – London/Heathrow cut from 27x weekly to 1x daily
• New York/JFK – Paris/CDG won’t operate
• Philadelphia – London/Heathrow won’t operate
• Philadelphia – Madrid won’t operate
• Phoenix – London/Heathrow won’t operate
• Raleigh/Durham – London/Heathrow won’t operate
• Dallas/Fort Worth – Seoul/Incheon drops from 1x daily to 3x weekly
• Dallas/Fort Worth – Hong Kong’s restart has been delayed from October 24 to December 17.
Asia sees a couple cuts as well. Dallas/Fort Worth – Seoul/Incheon drops from 1x daily to 3x weekly through the winter and Dallas/Fort Worth – Hong Kong’s restart has been delayed from October 24 to December 17.The Caribbean sees cuts as well with Bonaire, Curacao, and Grand Cayman having flights pushed back into November and December. Over in the Pacific, Hawai’i sees most restarts pushed until October 15, but LAX to Honolulu also gets cut from 2 daily to 1 for the rest of that month, indicating weakness is still expected.“
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It wasn't bold. It had to plan to operate the flights because at the time they put them in the schedule it wasn't clear if the EU would suspend the 80/20 use/lose rule or not for the winder seasdon that runs from end October to end March.
Now that is has been suspended AA can cancel the flights knowing their European airport slots are protected and can run a more limited schedule
Now that is has been suspended AA can cancel the flights knowing their European airport slots are protected and can run a more limited schedule
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It wasn't bold. It had to plan to operate the flights because at the time they put them in the schedule it wasn't clear if the EU would suspend the 80/20 use/lose rule or not for the winder seasdon that runs from end October to end March.
Now that is has been suspended AA can cancel the flights knowing their European airport slots are protected and can run a more limited schedule
Now that is has been suspended AA can cancel the flights knowing their European airport slots are protected and can run a more limited schedule
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I had a DFW-LHR flight booked for late Nov and it got changed now going through Miami...not sure what the 1x daily thing means but the person on the phone (Exc phone #) told me they might cut off the DFW-LHR flight to just a few times a week, not daily..and for future planning to check every Saturday when schedules get updated
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I was looking for award flights to/from Dublin on Saturday afternoon, saw the DFW flights which are perfect from a timing standpoint, and from a tax standpoint, but when I went to book that evening they were gone. Sad, but not surprising. So AA will have no flights to Dublin. Now any award flights require the heavy BA taxes.
If I had managed to book them before the schedule change would AA have moved me to a BA itinerary without charging me the extra tax?
If I had managed to book them before the schedule change would AA have moved me to a BA itinerary without charging me the extra tax?
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It would actually probably have been a pretty good time for AA to have started their DBV service this past summer. Croatia has been a staple leisure travel destination in Europe with most of the rest of it closed. IST as well. It would be interesting to see AA (and other airlines) go after the leisure international markets that are open, similar to how AA and especially UA have gone after a bunch of new domestic leisure routes.
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I'd probably be more inclined to fly LAX-JFK-LHR and stick to a premium transcon and an AA flight than suffer through misery that is BA CW at the moment.
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My December LAX-LHR return was originally booked on BA; who then cancelled. Rebooked onto AA; who today with their cancellations are now trying to route me through ORD or BOS (to connect onto BA).