AA to reduce staff by 40K, invol furlough 19,000, 1 Oct 2020
Sep 5, 2020, 7:03 pm
#61
Join Date: Jul 2004
Programs: DL; AA; UA; CO; LHLX; NZ; QR; EK; BA
Posts: 7,407
About 4,100 Delta FAs took the early out program. After the early outs were finalized, DL said they were overstaffed by about 3,000 and encouraged more FAs to take temp leaves and offered some other more creative programs (eg fly every other month (so essentially job sharing), temp transfers to other departments like catering). As a result of all of this, DL announced yesterday that they would not have to involuntary furlough a single flight attendant this fall and winter.
Sep 11, 2020, 8:03 am
#62
Join Date: May 2004
Location: DFW-In Plano & CDG-In the 11th
Programs: DL Diamond, AA revenue negative, Bonvoy Titanium +, Avis likes me
Posts: 3,209
About 4,100 Delta FAs took the early out program. After the early outs were finalized, DL said they were overstaffed by about 3,000 and encouraged more FAs to take temp leaves and offered some other more creative programs (eg fly every other month (so essentially job sharing), temp transfers to other departments like catering). As a result of all of this, DL announced yesterday that they would not have to involuntary furlough a single flight attendant this fall and winter.
Surprised AA didn't copy the idea. They copy everything else DL does.
My heart goes out to the 19,000 AA employees who will no longer be employed in 19 days.
Sep 11, 2020, 3:55 pm
#63
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: DCA
Programs: AA Executive Platinum
Posts: 2,085
I know I'm late to this, but I flew DCA-CLT a couple weeks ago on the day of the announcement. The entire crew I flew with had just been informed they were getting furloughed and that was going to be their last trip. This also happened to be an all female DCA-based crew, including the flight deck. It was very sad to see indeed, and despite their impending fates, the FAs were outstanding and offered PDBs and great service throughout the flight. I had a great conversation with the F class FA and gave her a hug on the way off the aircraft.
Sep 11, 2020, 7:30 pm
#64
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2000
Location: TPA for now. Hopefully LIS for retirement
Posts: 13,691
It doesn't start until Oct. 1 (unless they volunteered for something that was effective earlier).
Sep 11, 2020, 7:31 pm
#65
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: East Coast
Programs: AA CONCIERGE KEY & 1MM, HILTON DIAMOND
Posts: 11,970
But crew scheduling isn't going to wait until then which is why some probably were told already as crew scheduling would need updated rosters of available FAs to work on or after 10/1
Sep 12, 2020, 10:12 am
#66
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2000
Location: TPA for now. Hopefully LIS for retirement
Posts: 13,691
The entire crew I flew with had just been informed they were getting furloughed and that was going to be their last trip.
Sep 12, 2020, 11:11 am
#67
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: AA EP
Posts: 2,203
Sep 12, 2020, 2:12 pm
#68
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: East Coast
Programs: AA CONCIERGE KEY & 1MM, HILTON DIAMOND
Posts: 11,970
Sep 12, 2020, 3:39 pm
#69
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2000
Location: TPA for now. Hopefully LIS for retirement
Posts: 13,691
I think there was a miscommunication or misunderstanding somewhere.
Sep 13, 2020, 12:09 pm
#70
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: East Coast
Programs: AA CONCIERGE KEY & 1MM, HILTON DIAMOND
Posts: 11,970
Sep 13, 2020, 1:13 pm
#71
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2000
Location: TPA for now. Hopefully LIS for retirement
Posts: 13,691
Sep 26, 2020, 4:56 am
#72
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Live: IWI; Work: DCA/Everywhere; Play: LAS/SJU/MLE
Programs: AA EXP, DL PM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Ambassador/LTP, Nat'l Exec Elite, LEYE Gold
Posts: 6,670
Just boarded AA1839 DCA-DFW. All 4 FAs are commiserating about what they're doing once furlough starts...
"I might as well go home, no point paying rent or staying in a crash pad forever"
"Yeah, I guess spend some time with the family, get some furlough pay"
"Oh, I don't get furlough pay, I'm less than a year in"
"This year's been hard enough"
"Maybe they'll pass a bill, we still have a week?"
Etc.
Sad times.
"I might as well go home, no point paying rent or staying in a crash pad forever"
"Yeah, I guess spend some time with the family, get some furlough pay"
"Oh, I don't get furlough pay, I'm less than a year in"
"This year's been hard enough"
"Maybe they'll pass a bill, we still have a week?"
Etc.
Sad times.
Sep 26, 2020, 7:35 am
#73
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MCO
Programs: AA, B6, DL, EK, EY, QR, SQ, UA, Amex Plat, Marriott Tit, HHonors Gold
Posts: 12,809
Just boarded AA1839 DCA-DFW. All 4 FAs are commiserating about what they're doing once furlough starts...
"I might as well go home, no point paying rent or staying in a crash pad forever"
"Yeah, I guess spend some time with the family, get some furlough pay"
"Oh, I don't get furlough pay, I'm less than a year in"
"This year's been hard enough"
"Maybe they'll pass a bill, we still have a week?"
Etc.
Sad times.
"I might as well go home, no point paying rent or staying in a crash pad forever"
"Yeah, I guess spend some time with the family, get some furlough pay"
"Oh, I don't get furlough pay, I'm less than a year in"
"This year's been hard enough"
"Maybe they'll pass a bill, we still have a week?"
Etc.
Sad times.
Sep 26, 2020, 7:57 am
#74
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Live: IWI; Work: DCA/Everywhere; Play: LAS/SJU/MLE
Programs: AA EXP, DL PM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Ambassador/LTP, Nat'l Exec Elite, LEYE Gold
Posts: 6,670
Sep 26, 2020, 7:59 am
#75
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MCO
Programs: AA, B6, DL, EK, EY, QR, SQ, UA, Amex Plat, Marriott Tit, HHonors Gold
Posts: 12,809