American Airlines says no more mask exceptions
#106
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And I'm sure he's now banned from all future flying. Would also be gold if the other airlines followed suit after seeing his obviously fake medical exemption claim
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One thing that I haven't seen discussed in any of these threads is sleeping. Has anyone here actually taken a longhaul flight and slept in a mask? I honestly can't see how it's possible.
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https://thepointsguy.com/news/airlin...rus-face-mask/
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Sleeping w/ a mask on isn't an issue, no different from wearing one for >1hr. Only thing to watch out for is bring spares in case you drool. Also, neck pillows can move the masks around depending on the size. Wasn't long haul but three 3-3.5hr flights in 1 day and it was fine.
I'm honestly amazed by how much people complain about the slight discomfort of wearing a mask. I've never seen so many grown men whine so much about something that isn't that bad lol
I'm honestly amazed by how much people complain about the slight discomfort of wearing a mask. I've never seen so many grown men whine so much about something that isn't that bad lol
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Why would he be banned? He was OK under the current policy. The new "no exception policy" is not yet in effect
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Under current policy, they could not remove him.
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This suggests quite strongly to me that he had no justifiable reason not to wear a mask and so reasonable to bar him
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Sleeping w/ a mask on isn't an issue, no different from wearing one for >1hr. Only thing to watch out for is bring spares in case you drool. Also, neck pillows can move the masks around depending on the size. Wasn't long haul but three 3-3.5hr flights in 1 day and it was fine.
I'm honestly amazed by how much people complain about the slight discomfort of wearing a mask. I've never seen so many grown men whine so much about something that isn't that bad lol
I'm honestly amazed by how much people complain about the slight discomfort of wearing a mask. I've never seen so many grown men whine so much about something that isn't that bad lol
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What you are missing is that the physician is NOT saying "In my medical opinion you must allow them to fly." In other words, the airline is not disagreeing with the doctor. The airline is saying that if you can't wear a mask because: a) it makes you feel unhappy, politically correct or just plain uncomfortable; or, b) there is a legit medical reason, we are fine with either one. You just can't fly on our airplane.
Now, since I've been away for few days, I 100% agree with requiring masks. However the ACAA requires they make exceptions. Not just for breathing issues, but for those that can't physically wear one (ie missing an ear, lacking a nose, etc), etc... The only way to get around ACAA is to get FAA/DOT to mandate them.
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The problem is b is not currently allowed under the ACAA. A has no law prohibiting AA from doing so. B isnt allowed unless they can show you have a communicable disease. In fact the CDC rules they point includes the exact medical exceptions they're trying to say don't matter.
Now, since I've been away for few days, I 100% agree with requiring masks. However the ACAA requires they make exceptions. Not just for breathing issues, but for those that can't physically wear one (ie missing an ear, lacking a nose, etc), etc... The only way to get around ACAA is to get FAA/DOT to mandate them.
Now, since I've been away for few days, I 100% agree with requiring masks. However the ACAA requires they make exceptions. Not just for breathing issues, but for those that can't physically wear one (ie missing an ear, lacking a nose, etc), etc... The only way to get around ACAA is to get FAA/DOT to mandate them.
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For years now I have worn a cloth mask when sleeping on a redeye flight since it has helped retain moisture so that I dont wake up dehydrated with an uncomfortably dry mouth due to the planes bone dry air. I got the idea originally from JALs business class, which hands out masks with moisture pads as part of its amenity kit. Have now used a cloth mask on 20+ international flights while sleeping, all pre-COVID, and have experienced zero issues.
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No exemptions, not exceptions. Just "reasonable accommodations."
There are many examples of people with a permanent or temporary disability who are not "fit to fly" and for whom no "reasonable accommodation" is possible.
The key is to keep the social judgments out of it as well as one's own personal views of the requirement.
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Wearing a mask should be required in every close proximity situation until the pandemic is under control and those who can't wear a mask should stay at home. The only peer reviewed study I was able to find about masks limiting O2, CO2, and tidal volume was a group of pregnant women fitted with a N-95 mask while under exercise. Wear a mask and don't kill your health care providers.
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2. Making a false claim that he's unable to wear a mask which is easily disproven with the public info he has online. It's obvious he was making a scene on purpose.
Yet again .. he can scream "my rights" all he wants. So can AA. They have a right to not serve people.
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Are you usually unconscious or physically impaired when flying? I have to admit after prolonged connection time and lounge access I may have been. ;-)
Wearing a mask should be required in every close proximity situation until the pandemic is under control and those who can't wear a mask should stay at home. The only peer reviewed study I was able to find about masks limiting O2, CO2, and tidal volume was a group of pregnant women fitted with a N-95 mask while under exercise. Wear a mask and don't kill your health care providers.
Wearing a mask should be required in every close proximity situation until the pandemic is under control and those who can't wear a mask should stay at home. The only peer reviewed study I was able to find about masks limiting O2, CO2, and tidal volume was a group of pregnant women fitted with a N-95 mask while under exercise. Wear a mask and don't kill your health care providers.