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AA & JetBlue enhances Partnership: codesharing, coordination, status & earning

AA & JetBlue enhances Partnership: codesharing, coordination, status & earning

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American Airlines announced a new strategic partnership including codesharing on some routes in July 2020. In January 2021, several other enhancements to this partnership were announced, including:

Important components of the alliance will be introduced starting in the first quarter of 2021 and phased in over the course of the year:

  • Seamless customer experience
    With each element of the alliance, customers flying in and out of New York and Boston will enjoy a more seamless experience across both airlines, including the ability to book a single itinerary on either website, access to the alliances significant global network, convenient connections, access to loyalty benefits and an improved on-the-ground experience resulting in a compelling proposition for both leisure and corporate customers.
  • Network alignment in the Northeast
    The alliance will offer customers the largest network in New York City and Boston, and it will enable new strategic growth opportunities for both airlines, accelerate the replacement of small regional jets with larger aircraft, while greatly expanding the connectivity between each carriers network in the Northeast. American will upgauge aircraft and by the end of 2021 will operate all service out of New York with first class. Starting in the first half of 2021, JetBlue and American schedules in New York and Boston will begin to be aligned to give customers new flight options, with improved schedules, better connections, competitive fares and access to more domestic and international destinations.
  • Expanded service in the Northeast
    As part of the alliance, JetBlue plans to significantly expand its service at New York LaGuardia Airport (LGA), as well as further expand in other NYC airports and in Boston. The alliance will also allow JetBlue to reactivate aircraft that would otherwise sit idle. An expanded operation at LaGuardia further advances JetBlues position as New Yorks Hometown Airline and accelerates the airlines ability to recover.

    As previously announced, American is introducing brand new service on from New York (JFK) to Tel Aviv (TLV) and Athens (ATH). Americans loyal customers in New York will be introduced to their first long-haul international service in more than four years, with even more new routes on the way.
  • Codeshare agreement
    Starting later this quarter, JetBlue will place its B6 code on a variety of American flights in New York and Boston. Likewise, American will place its AA code on select JetBlue flights also in at New Yorks John F. Kennedy International, LaGuardia (LGA) and Newark Liberty International (EWR) airports, as well as Boston Logan International Airport (BOS). Flights touching New York or Boston from either JetBlue, American or connecting combinations of both will be bookable on jetblue.com and aa.com in the coming weeks. The codeshare will introduce JetBlue customers to more than 60 new routes operated by American and will introduce Americans customers to more than 130 new routes operated by JetBlue.
  • Reciprocal loyalty benefits
    Later this year, customers of both JetBlues TrueBlue and Americans AAdvantage programs will be able to enjoy reciprocal benefits, including the ability to earn and/or redeem points or miles on either carrier making both loyalty program even more valuable. The airlines are also exploring opportunities to recognize JetBlue Mosaic customers and Americans AAdvantage elite members across both airlines. More details will be announced to loyalty program members later this year.

Link to January 12, 2021, AA news release

As of Jan 31st, 2022 - Benefits typically do not show up when managing the booking and will show up when checking in online.

To receive elite benefits add your AAdvantage number at time of purchase, or contact JetBlue customer service to add it after purchase.

JetBlue Basic: AA elites still get free seat selection and a free bag on Blue Basic fares. All passengers are allowed to bring on board a personal item that fits under the seat. However you do not get to bring a free full size carry-on with Blue Basic except when you select an Even More Space seat.

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Old Jul 16, 20, 7:53 pm
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Originally Posted by JALOO5-Flyer View Post
Will B6 maybe move some of their mint flight to T8 for Flagship Lounge? Or will B6 build its own lounge? If AA/B6 really want to collaborate on the PREMIUM transcon market, I would expect the same lounge access rule/standard. AS, on the other hand, can be the "prem econ like" First class product with lower fares.
With AS/BA moving into T8 and (hopefully) a consolidation with Mint service, maybe it's time to rethink building the whole Terminal 8.




Part of the JFK redevelopment plan has B6 demolishing T7 then expanding it's terminal over the former T6 and T7 footprint. The expansion will include 12 international gates. Some sort of physical connection over the expressway to T8 would be difficult and long but it is possible.

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Given this, if any B6 flights move to T8, it'll only be temporary.
It also means that UA would have a hard time finding gates should they decide to return.
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Old Jul 16, 20, 8:22 pm
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Interesting. AA-AS-B6 How about DL-UA linkup - with DL joining StarAlliance.
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Old Jul 16, 20, 8:36 pm
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Originally Posted by cova View Post
Interesting. AA-AS-B6 How about DL-UA linkup - with DL joining StarAlliance.
Id be a lot more excited to see DL or UA link up with EK with no one joining an alliance.
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Old Jul 16, 20, 9:06 pm
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Disagree. UA offers nothing to the premium transcon passenger that AA doesn’t with the sole exception that they use the 757 while AA uses the A321. Outside of that, AA offers F, they offer the exact same seat in J but with a better soft product, and they offer better lounges, at least on the JFK side than UA ever has. Beyond that, UA offers even fewer connections ex-JFK than AA does.

I feel like UA competition was about the last thing that drove this decision.
AA flies the same J seat that UAL has, and the latter flies brand new 787s in these routes that is arguably a caliber higher than AA F since it’s in a new wide body 77W/787. Even as a huge lover of 3-cabin F, I sadly am no longer convinced the soft products even matter on the premium transcon markets anymore (the products are all lie flat and that’s pretty much that). I do think it’s important to consider that the UAL enterprise at EWR (and by extension New York) is stronger than ever, and is definitely an operation AA is envious of. Any UAL return to JFK (which COVID just changed from a matter of if, to when) had to be part of any competent analysis done by AA given the strength UAL already demonstrates from what is a second tier airport compared to JFK. Combining that strength with JFK operations is absolutely a competitive threat to AA re: corporate contracts moving forward.

I’m rooting for AA to make this work, for what it’s worth. A desperate move maybe, but then again all global airlines are making desperate moves to survive, and this move by AA could still net it very real material benefits. Only time will tell.

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Old Jul 16, 20, 10:06 pm
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Right! They are not joining oneworld. They won't be.
I seem to recall that LH was holding an equity position in B6 anyway - not sure if this is still the case though.
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Old Jul 16, 20, 10:55 pm
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I wonder to what extent the announcement of all of these realignments, growth plans, partnerships—not the actual plans themselves, but the announcement timings—when it comes to closing the LAX Asia hub, doubling down on SEA and even moving PVG to there, the partnership with B6 and commitments to start TLV and ATH from there as well as vague unspecified growth to Europe, India, and Africa, are timed to inoculate AA against the more existential threats from what might be a disastrous earnings call in 6 days.
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Old Jul 17, 20, 4:07 am
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Originally Posted by tuolumne View Post
AA flies the same J seat that UAL has, and the latter flies brand new 787s in these routes that is arguably a caliber higher than AA F since its in a new wide body 77W/787.
From EWR, on some flights, for now while these aircraft arent being widely used internationally, yes. However theres nothing to indicate this would be the case to JFK when things return to normal and if UA even returns.
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Old Jul 17, 20, 5:13 am
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AA and United the worst airline for USA and International travel

I would have preferred that JetBlue partnered with Delta. Imagine the misery of connecting from a comfortable JetBlue flight to a miserable and cramped AA flight. I do not fly AA internationally for the past 8 years, because they are substandard compared to their international carriers.
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Old Jul 17, 20, 6:42 am
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I would have preferred that JetBlue partnered with Delta. Imagine the misery of connecting from a comfortable JetBlue flight to a miserable and cramped AA flight. I do not fly AA internationally for the past 8 years, because they are substandard compared to their international carriers.
Ahh yes, stepping off a Mint flight and getting on an AA A321 ghetto bird with 37 of pitch and no in seat power...
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Old Jul 17, 20, 7:04 am
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Lots of twists and turns before this is approved. Make no mistake, neither DOJ nor DOT will shoot down this deal, but there may well be adjustments, particularly to assure that routes are serviced. LGA & DCA will also have slot issues which are sorted at DOT and may become part of a DOJ approval.
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Old Jul 17, 20, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by cesco.g View Post
I seem to recall that LH was holding an equity position in B6 anyway - not sure if this is still the case though.
LH sold its stake five years ago.
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Old Jul 17, 20, 10:16 pm
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Anyone have the letter Vasu Raja wrote to employees about this? Mentioned Africa but haven't been able to find a link
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Old Jul 17, 20, 11:13 pm
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Anyone have the letter Vasu Raja wrote to employees about this? Mentioned Africa but haven't been able to find a link
About new routes to Africa after COVID? It was mentioned in the news release along with plans for more flying to India, Europe, and South America

And, once the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic has ended, the new partnership is certain to facilitate American adding new long-haul markets in Europe, Africa, India and South America.
Newsroom - JetBlue and American Airlines Announce Strategic Partnership to Create More Competitive Options and Choice for Customers in the Northeast - American Airlines Group, Inc.
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Old Jul 19, 20, 10:31 am
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I'm lifetime Platinum on AA will i get Mosaic status on B6 if Iuse my aadvantage number in stead of my trueblue number?
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Old Jul 19, 20, 10:50 am
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I'm lifetime Platinum on AA will i get Mosaic status on B6 if Iuse my aadvantage number in stead of my trueblue number?
Almost certainly not.
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