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Old Jun 25, 2020, 10:12 pm
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Why isn't AA selling coach seats from CDG in September?

I have AA tickets from JFK to London in late August, returning to JFK from Paris in early September. AA sent me an email saying my flights have been cancelled. When I look at the schedule, a daily flight does exist but, for some reason AA isn't selling one way coach tickets FROM Paris to NYC (tickets are being sold in PE and biz class). They are selling coach tickets TO Paris, though, and selling roundtrip coach tickets from NYC to Paris. Seems quite odd. Any ideas?

I'm trying to decide whether to call AA now to sort this out, or wait a few weeks. Right now, I could simply get a refund, which seems like a good option to have given that I've already had 3 previous trips to Europe cancelled this year and I can't say I have great confidence now that August "will work." If I somehow manage to get this rebooked, I assume I lose the ability to get a refund?
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Old Jun 25, 2020, 10:39 pm
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Originally Posted by iahphx
I have AA tickets from JFK to London in late August, returning to JFK from Paris in early September. AA sent me an email saying my flights have been cancelled. When I look at the schedule, a daily flight does exist but, for some reason AA isn't selling one way coach tickets FROM Paris to NYC (tickets are being sold in PE and biz class). They are selling coach tickets TO Paris, though, and selling roundtrip coach tickets from NYC to Paris. Seems quite odd. Any ideas?

I'm trying to decide whether to call AA now to sort this out, or wait a few weeks. Right now, I could simply get a refund, which seems like a good option to have given that I've already had 3 previous trips to Europe cancelled this year and I can't say I have great confidence now that August "will work." If I somehow manage to get this rebooked, I assume I lose the ability to get a refund?
If you flights change substantially, you can accept them or get a refund. In fact, as the return is FROM Europe, EU 261 gives you more protections against changes
Read EU 261 to see how flight cancellations affect you
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Old Jun 26, 2020, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by iahphx
I have AA tickets from JFK to London in late August, returning to JFK from Paris in early September. AA sent me an email saying my flights have been cancelled. When I look at the schedule, a daily flight does exist but, for some reason AA isn't selling one way coach tickets FROM Paris to NYC (tickets are being sold in PE and biz class). They are selling coach tickets TO Paris, though, and selling roundtrip coach tickets from NYC to Paris. Seems quite odd. Any ideas?
With so many cancellations, already booked travelers might be on the few remaining flights, selling them out.

Also, the EU is now banning US citizens. That will likely change flight schedules even more.
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Old Jun 26, 2020, 5:08 pm
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Originally Posted by iahphx
I have AA tickets from JFK to London in late August, returning to JFK from Paris in early September. AA sent me an email saying my flights have been cancelled. When I look at the schedule, a daily flight does exist but, for some reason AA isn't selling one way coach tickets FROM Paris to NYC (tickets are being sold in PE and biz class). They are selling coach tickets TO Paris, though, and selling roundtrip coach tickets from NYC to Paris. Seems quite odd. Any ideas?

I'm trying to decide whether to call AA now to sort this out, or wait a few weeks. Right now, I could simply get a refund, which seems like a good option to have given that I've already had 3 previous trips to Europe cancelled this year and I can't say I have great confidence now that August "will work." If I somehow manage to get this rebooked, I assume I lose the ability to get a refund?
On a random date in September, the oneway CDG-JFK fare in economy is higher than the lowest fare available, which is in PE. No idea why, since they both appear to be unrestricted (fully refundable, etc.).

But one-way international fares are somewhat atypical anyways, and in your case entirely irrelevant.

There's plenty of availability on AA45 in economy throughout September. Just check round-trip CDG-JFK and there's lots of seats in economy for sale.

But yes, once you accept a new itinerary, you wouldn't be entitled to a refund later, unless there is another schedule change.

So if you think there's the slightest chance that you will ultimately want a refund, then I wouldn't call or do anything with the reservation until you're confident you want to travel.
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Old Jun 27, 2020, 4:06 am
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On a random date in September, the oneway CDG-JFK fare in economy is higher than the lowest fare available, which is in PE. No idea why, since they both appear to be unrestricted (fully refundable, etc.).

But one-way international fares are somewhat atypical anyways, and in your case entirely irrelevant.

There's plenty of availability on AA45 in economy throughout September. Just check round-trip CDG-JFK and there's lots of seats in economy for sale.

But yes, once you accept a new itinerary, you wouldn't be entitled to a refund later, unless there is another schedule change.

So if you think there's the slightest chance that you will ultimately want a refund, then I wouldn't call or do anything with the reservation until you're confident you want to travel.
Yes, this is the issue. There are coach seats available, it's just that the cheaper coach fares all require a roundtrip purchase and the only applicable fares to one-way bookings from CDG are full Y fares which cost more than full W fares. I'd wait a bit to see if AA does in fact pull these flights (which seems likely). EU261 doesn't really provide for anything for flight cancellations more than 2 weeks out. AA will refund for significant changes like this.
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Old Jun 27, 2020, 4:20 am
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I suspect it is unlikely that US citizens will be allowed to enter France in September, so it may be useful to look at returns from the UK. You can always hop over if things change.
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Old Jun 27, 2020, 9:18 pm
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I'll just do nothing, sit on my cancelled ticket and see what the situation looks like in a few weeks. My hunch in the virus rolling through the USA Sunbelt burns itself out by then and that there will then be a real discussion about opening borders. If not, it will be time for yet another refund!
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Old Jun 28, 2020, 10:07 am
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Have you seen the video of the American traveler in transit and trapped in a French jail at CDG? I didn’t check to see if it was legit but it sure seemed like it and looked like hell.
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Old Jun 28, 2020, 3:10 pm
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Have you seen the video of the American traveler in transit and trapped in a French jail at CDG? I didn’t check to see if it was legit but it sure seemed like it and looked like hell.
We have not. Can you please share a link? Thanks
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