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Which CX space can AA pull from? (Trying to preserve upgrade)

Old May 5, 20, 3:54 am
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Which CX space can AA pull from? (Trying to preserve upgrade)

Hi folks,
My original June 23 AA flight from HKG-LAX was cancelled, and AA subsequently put me on a CX flight that was then also cancelled. I'm trying to rebook on another CX flight, but having a hard time finding business class availability on the few CX flights that remain. I found a flight on June 16 that's J8/C8/D9, but AA says there's no business space available (I'm told they only see the U space CX releases?). In fact none of the CX flights in June seem to have any U space, although there are plenty of seats available. Is there any way AA can access business seats in another fare class? Thx for any help.
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Old May 5, 20, 4:25 am
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Was this an award booking or a cash booking.?
if you final destination LAX? if not maybe AA can find you another routing.. may not be the best, but will get you to where you need to go, plus a few connections.
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Old May 5, 20, 4:32 am
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Originally Posted by fotographer View Post
Was this an award booking or a cash booking.?
if you final destination LAX? if not maybe AA can find you another routing.. may not be the best, but will get you to where you need to go, plus a few connections.
Good questions. Yep, my final destination is LA. It was originally booked on AA as an economy ticket with a miles/copay upgrade to business. When the AA flight was cancelled they protected me in business on a CX flight. That CX flight was cancelled, so I'm looking for another one.
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Old May 5, 20, 4:40 am
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nice to see AA try to find you J inventory... I think for now , since your flight is in June, just keep checking with AA
hopefully by the time you are ready to fly.. there may be something for you.
worst case, is that you will be in Y.... again, if you want to stay in J (which of course I fully understand), you might want to see other routing, DFW comes to mind,
(sorry not sure if AA is still flying into DFW ,)
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Old May 5, 20, 5:28 am
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Thanks for the input. I'll hold tight for now and see if something opens up.
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Old May 5, 20, 8:39 am
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best of luck
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Old May 5, 20, 4:21 pm
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Originally Posted by idyllwildjoe View Post
Thanks for the input. I'll hold tight for now and see if something opens up.
Heres something to consider, assuming transit is allowed in Japan.

Japan Airlines is a Joint Business Agreement partner with AA, and AA can more easily preserve your upgrade using JL and AA than with CX, which is t a JBA partner. Only you can decide which is more important to you - returning expeditiously, or in Business Class.
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Old May 5, 20, 4:31 pm
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The closest date with U Availability is 01 Jul:

[KVS Tool 9.8.2/Diamond - Awards/JL-OneWorld/US]
Code:
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
WED  01 Jul 2020

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Award Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
CX         880     HKG   00:05     LAX   22:45 -1  77W  0   CS1
CX         157     HKG   13:10     BNE   23:35     359  0   YS9
 -> QF     15      BNE   10:00 +1  LAX   06:00 +1  789  0   YS9
QF         98      HKG   19:25     BNE   06:10 +1  332  0   YS5
 -> QF     15      BNE   10:00 +1  LAX   06:00 +1  789  0   YS5
CX         524     HKG   01:00     NRT   06:30     333  0   CS4
 -> JL     16      HND   17:00     LAX   11:15     773  0   CS3  WS9  YS9
CX         548     HKG   08:45     HND   13:55     77W  0   CS3
 -> JL     16      HND   17:00     LAX   11:15     773  0   CS3  WS9  YS9
CX         844     HKG   02:00     JFK   06:00     77W  0   YS7
 -> AA     1       JFK   08:00     LAX   11:07     32B  0   CS7  YS7
CX         844     HKG   02:00     JFK   06:00     77W  0   YS7
 -> AA     3       JFK   12:00     LAX   14:59     32B  0   CS7  YS7
CX         844     HKG   02:00     JFK   06:00     77W  0   YS7
 -> AA     302     JFK   18:00     LAX   21:12     32B  0   CS7  YS7
CX         830     HKG   09:05     JFK   13:10     77W  0   YS9
 -> AA     302     JFK   18:00     LAX   21:12     32B  0   CS7  YS7
CX         343     HKG   00:55     LGW   06:40     359  0   YS5
 -> BA     283     LHR   09:55     LAX   13:05     744  0   WS5  YS9
CX         343     HKG   00:55     LGW   06:40     359  0   YS5
 -> BA     281     LHR   11:35     LAX   14:45     777  0   WS5  YS7
CX         343     HKG   00:55     LGW   06:40     359  0   YS5
 -> BA     269     LHR   16:15     LAX   19:20     744  0   CS5  WS9  YS9
CX         135     HKG   19:05     MEL   06:10 +1  359  0   YS9
 -> QF     93      MEL   09:00 +1  LAX   06:25 +1  388  0   YS9
CX         526     HKG   08:10     NRT   13:40     333  0   CS3
 -> JL     62      NRT   17:20     LAX   11:40     788  0   YS9
CX         504     HKG   09:05     NRT   14:30     773  0   CS3
 -> JL     62      NRT   17:20     LAX   11:40     788  0   YS9
JL         736     HKG   10:40     NRT   16:05     788  0   CS0  YS0
 -> JL     62      NRT   17:20     LAX   11:40     788  0   CS0  YS9
CX         806     HKG   11:30     ORD   13:40     351  0   CS1  YS9
 -> AA     2364    ORD   17:24     LAX   19:49     321  0   FS7  YS7
CX         139     HKG   09:10     SYD   20:20     77W  0   CS3  YS9
 -> QF     11      SYD   09:40 +1  LAX   06:20 +1  388  0   YS9
CX         111     HKG   18:50     SYD   06:15 +1  359  0   CS1  YS9
 -> QF     11      SYD   09:40 +1  LAX   06:20 +1  388  0   YS9
QF         128     HKG   19:30     SYD   06:40 +1  789  0   YS9
 -> QF     11      SYD   09:40 +1  LAX   06:20 +1  388  0   YS9
CX         524     HKG   01:00     NRT   06:30     333  0   CS4
 -> JL     113     HND   10:30     ITM   11:35     788  0   YS9
 -> JL     60      KIX   17:45     LAX   12:35     789  0   CS2  WS9  YS9
CX         524     HKG   01:00     NRT   06:30     333  0   CS4
 -> JL     225     HND   12:45     KIX   14:10     73H  0   YS9
 -> JL     60      KIX   17:45     LAX   12:35     789  0   CS2  WS9  YS9
CX         524     HKG   01:00     NRT   06:30     333  0   CS4
 -> JL     117     HND   12:30     ITM   13:30     788  0   YS9
 -> JL     60      KIX   17:45     LAX   12:35     789  0   CS2  WS9  YS9
CX         524     HKG   01:00     NRT   06:30     333  0   CS4
 -> JL     115     HND   11:30     ITM   12:35     788  0   YS9
 -> JL     60      KIX   17:45     LAX   12:35     789  0   CS2  WS9  YS9
KA         802     HKG   07:25     PVG   10:10     321  0   CS1  YS9
 -> JL     894     PVG   13:15     KIX   16:45     73H  0   CS5  YS9
 -> JL     60      KIX   17:45     LAX   12:35     789  0   CS2  WS9  YS9
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Old May 5, 20, 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
Heres something to consider, assuming transit is allowed in Japan.

Japan Airlines is a Joint Business Agreement partner with AA, and AA can more easily preserve your upgrade using JL and AA than with CX, which is t a JBA partner. Only you can decide which is more important to you - returning expeditiously, or in Business Class.
Thanks for this. Yep, I was looking at the possibility of transiting through Japan. I know Japan's not allowing foreigners entry right now, but I can't seem to find a clear statement about whether or not international/international transfers are allowed? I'm guessing not. You're right about the ultimate choice: if nothing opens up soon I'll just bite the bullet and fly Y. Getting back is more important than comfort/lack thereof.
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Old May 5, 20, 8:49 pm
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The closest date with U Availability is 01 Jul:

[KVS Tool 9.8.2/Diamond - Awards/JL-OneWorld/US]
Code:
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
WED  01 Jul 2020

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Award Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
CX         880     HKG   00:05     LAX   22:45 -1  77W  0   CS1
CX         157     HKG   13:10     BNE   23:35     359  0   YS9
 -> QF     15      BNE   10:00 +1  LAX   06:00 +1  789  0   YS9
QF         98      HKG   19:25     BNE   06:10 +1  332  0   YS5
 -> QF     15      BNE   10:00 +1  LAX   06:00 +1  789  0   YS5
CX         524     HKG   01:00     NRT   06:30     333  0   CS4
 -> JL     16      HND   17:00     LAX   11:15     773  0   CS3  WS9  YS9
CX         548     HKG   08:45     HND   13:55     77W  0   CS3
 -> JL     16      HND   17:00     LAX   11:15     773  0   CS3  WS9  YS9
CX         844     HKG   02:00     JFK   06:00     77W  0   YS7
 -> AA     1       JFK   08:00     LAX   11:07     32B  0   CS7  YS7
CX         844     HKG   02:00     JFK   06:00     77W  0   YS7
 -> AA     3       JFK   12:00     LAX   14:59     32B  0   CS7  YS7
CX         844     HKG   02:00     JFK   06:00     77W  0   YS7
 -> AA     302     JFK   18:00     LAX   21:12     32B  0   CS7  YS7
CX         830     HKG   09:05     JFK   13:10     77W  0   YS9
 -> AA     302     JFK   18:00     LAX   21:12     32B  0   CS7  YS7
CX         343     HKG   00:55     LGW   06:40     359  0   YS5
 -> BA     283     LHR   09:55     LAX   13:05     744  0   WS5  YS9
CX         343     HKG   00:55     LGW   06:40     359  0   YS5
 -> BA     281     LHR   11:35     LAX   14:45     777  0   WS5  YS7
CX         343     HKG   00:55     LGW   06:40     359  0   YS5
 -> BA     269     LHR   16:15     LAX   19:20     744  0   CS5  WS9  YS9
CX         135     HKG   19:05     MEL   06:10 +1  359  0   YS9
 -> QF     93      MEL   09:00 +1  LAX   06:25 +1  388  0   YS9
CX         526     HKG   08:10     NRT   13:40     333  0   CS3
 -> JL     62      NRT   17:20     LAX   11:40     788  0   YS9
CX         504     HKG   09:05     NRT   14:30     773  0   CS3
 -> JL     62      NRT   17:20     LAX   11:40     788  0   YS9
JL         736     HKG   10:40     NRT   16:05     788  0   CS0  YS0
 -> JL     62      NRT   17:20     LAX   11:40     788  0   CS0  YS9
CX         806     HKG   11:30     ORD   13:40     351  0   CS1  YS9
 -> AA     2364    ORD   17:24     LAX   19:49     321  0   FS7  YS7
CX         139     HKG   09:10     SYD   20:20     77W  0   CS3  YS9
 -> QF     11      SYD   09:40 +1  LAX   06:20 +1  388  0   YS9
CX         111     HKG   18:50     SYD   06:15 +1  359  0   CS1  YS9
 -> QF     11      SYD   09:40 +1  LAX   06:20 +1  388  0   YS9
QF         128     HKG   19:30     SYD   06:40 +1  789  0   YS9
 -> QF     11      SYD   09:40 +1  LAX   06:20 +1  388  0   YS9
CX         524     HKG   01:00     NRT   06:30     333  0   CS4
 -> JL     113     HND   10:30     ITM   11:35     788  0   YS9
 -> JL     60      KIX   17:45     LAX   12:35     789  0   CS2  WS9  YS9
CX         524     HKG   01:00     NRT   06:30     333  0   CS4
 -> JL     225     HND   12:45     KIX   14:10     73H  0   YS9
 -> JL     60      KIX   17:45     LAX   12:35     789  0   CS2  WS9  YS9
CX         524     HKG   01:00     NRT   06:30     333  0   CS4
 -> JL     117     HND   12:30     ITM   13:30     788  0   YS9
 -> JL     60      KIX   17:45     LAX   12:35     789  0   CS2  WS9  YS9
CX         524     HKG   01:00     NRT   06:30     333  0   CS4
 -> JL     115     HND   11:30     ITM   12:35     788  0   YS9
 -> JL     60      KIX   17:45     LAX   12:35     789  0   CS2  WS9  YS9
KA         802     HKG   07:25     PVG   10:10     321  0   CS1  YS9
 -> JL     894     PVG   13:15     KIX   16:45     73H  0   CS5  YS9
 -> JL     60      KIX   17:45     LAX   12:35     789  0   CS2  WS9  YS9
Thanks for the info!
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Old May 6, 20, 12:42 am
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AA cannot book you into U class on CX if this was a revenue ticket and mileage+copay upgrade; they should book into one of the revenue fare classes. It appears when for mileage+copay / SWU upgrades, AA protects into the upgraded cabin. In this case, they should protect you into a revenue fare class (JCDPI). Just give them another call and see what they say.
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Old May 6, 20, 12:15 pm
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It appears when for mileage+copay / SWU upgrades, AA protects into the upgraded cabin. In this case, they should protect you into a revenue fare class (JCDPI). Just give them another call and see what they say.
Not this far in advance, they don’t.
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Old May 6, 20, 1:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Djokison View Post
Not this far in advance, they don’t.
Maybe I had been lucky then... But anyways, my point is they shouldn't look for the award bucket. If they are not willing to protect in the upgraded cabin, they should rebook in the lowest available coach bucket, or just Y.
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Old May 6, 20, 6:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Djokison View Post
Not this far in advance, they don’t.
Its more common in IROPS / OSO, but it seems AA has been a bit more open to this at this NCoV time - though as always, it is often easier across JBA airlines.
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Old May 6, 20, 8:03 pm
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Thanks for the thoughts, everyone! I'm afraid the conversation might be above my head at this point. The mention of JBA airlines--is that referring to joint ventures, like JAL, etc.? I guess CX is not that, but just a oneworld partner? I'll give AA another call and see what they say. Any tips on what to say when the frontline agent says "there's no space available" even though I know there are plenty of seats left in J/C/D?

Again thx for the input.
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