Parker sees Americans “regularly flying again” by September 30th
#31
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AA is not in a position to overtly alienate elites even further - they do it often enough due to incompetence.
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That is why I would be surprised to see that go away. And sure, the majority of MCE is probably customers with status, but it doesn't take losing very many paying customers to offset the free drinks. The markup on them is incredibly high. My guess it just takes a couple paying customers on a flight to offset the cost of all of the free drinks in MCE.
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#37
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Preliminary antibody survey results, from studies that just got started, seem to indicate that assumption to be very much unwarranted: the positive antibody test numbers are far higher than the confirmed case numbers. (Stanford's study of Santa Clara County indicated that there were somewhere between 50x and 85x as many total cases as there were confirmed cases, all of them recoveries. A study of one street in Chelsea MA had 64 positive antibody tests out of 200 random residents on that street, or 32% of that subpopulation.)
It is entirely possible that the virus is already running out of people to infect, at least in some regions. This appears to be what is happening in New York City right now.
The implication is that the actual pandemic may be OVER long before anyone is ready for it to be over.
#38
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You are assuming that the "confirmed cases" numbers are a good estimate of the "total cases" numbers, which include unconfirmed and unreported cases, where either the patient did not qualify for testing or had COVID-19 but did not get sick enough to justify even a doctor's visit. That assumption may not be even remotely valid.
Preliminary antibody survey results, from studies that just got started, seem to indicate that assumption to be very much unwarranted: the positive antibody test numbers are far higher than the confirmed case numbers. (Stanford's study of Santa Clara County indicated that there were somewhere between 50x and 85x as many total cases as there were confirmed cases, all of them recoveries. A study of one street in Chelsea MA had 64 positive antibody tests out of 200 random residents on that street, or 32% of that subpopulation.)
It is entirely possible that the virus is already running out of people to infect, at least in some regions. This appears to be what is happening in New York City right now.
The implication is that the actual pandemic may be OVER long before anyone is ready for it to be over.
Preliminary antibody survey results, from studies that just got started, seem to indicate that assumption to be very much unwarranted: the positive antibody test numbers are far higher than the confirmed case numbers. (Stanford's study of Santa Clara County indicated that there were somewhere between 50x and 85x as many total cases as there were confirmed cases, all of them recoveries. A study of one street in Chelsea MA had 64 positive antibody tests out of 200 random residents on that street, or 32% of that subpopulation.)
It is entirely possible that the virus is already running out of people to infect, at least in some regions. This appears to be what is happening in New York City right now.
The implication is that the actual pandemic may be OVER long before anyone is ready for it to be over.
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#39
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You are assuming that the "confirmed cases" numbers are a good estimate of the "total cases" numbers, which include unconfirmed and unreported cases, where either the patient did not qualify for testing or had COVID-19 but did not get sick enough to justify even a doctor's visit. That assumption may not be even remotely valid.
Preliminary antibody survey results, from studies that just got started, seem to indicate that assumption to be very much unwarranted: the positive antibody test numbers are far higher than the confirmed case numbers. (Stanford's study of Santa Clara County indicated that there were somewhere between 50x and 85x as many total cases as there were confirmed cases, all of them recoveries. A study of one street in Chelsea MA had 64 positive antibody tests out of 200 random residents on that street, or 32% of that subpopulation.)
It is entirely possible that the virus is already running out of people to infect, at least in some regions. This appears to be what is happening in New York City right now.
The implication is that the actual pandemic may be OVER long before anyone is ready for it to be over.
Preliminary antibody survey results, from studies that just got started, seem to indicate that assumption to be very much unwarranted: the positive antibody test numbers are far higher than the confirmed case numbers. (Stanford's study of Santa Clara County indicated that there were somewhere between 50x and 85x as many total cases as there were confirmed cases, all of them recoveries. A study of one street in Chelsea MA had 64 positive antibody tests out of 200 random residents on that street, or 32% of that subpopulation.)
It is entirely possible that the virus is already running out of people to infect, at least in some regions. This appears to be what is happening in New York City right now.
The implication is that the actual pandemic may be OVER long before anyone is ready for it to be over.
#40
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The doubting Thomas in me believes that when we come out on the other side of this AA will use it as a way of giving even less in service and of course hard product.
I just don't understand poor customer service! And sadly, I believe the people working with passengers want to do more. Unfortunately,, corporate ties their hands.
I just don't understand poor customer service! And sadly, I believe the people working with passengers want to do more. Unfortunately,, corporate ties their hands.
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Without going OT the first studies being done would suggest an infection rate of between 2.8% and 4%. Higher than the seasonal flu. However, the death rate is around .01%, just about at the flu level. The need for medical care is also about the same. Again, more test across the country need to be done. But right now it infects a greater proportion of the population but the vast majority of the infected feel no to light symptoms.
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Of course it will. I said the same upthread. When this has passed or at least AA and the public have gotten used to the new normal AA will use C19 as the excuse for everything --I am convinced just about everything that has been cut due to C19 will never come back, period.