Apr 1, 2020, 9:54 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
NOTE: With Alaska’s joining one world and changes in AAdvantage earnings and benefits as of 31 March 2021, the discussion has been closed and appropriate posts moved to https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/2036999-american-alaska-earnings-elite-benefits-31-mar-2021-a.html
American Airlines and Alaska Airlines are working together to become closer and more integrated partners with the addition of mileage accrual across both airlines. As Alaska Airlines prepares to join Oneworld in 2021, Alaska and American are expanding codeshare agreements and providing frequent flyers of both programs to once again earn and redeem miles. Starting April 1, 2020 all flights on either airline can earn miles (award and elite qualifying, as of an April 7 update to the AA web site) for the other airline’s frequent flyer program.
NOTE: Significant numbers of AAdvantage members are reporting excessive time lags or other difficulties with AA miles earned flying Alaska posting in an easy and timely manner.
AA and AS had previously agreed to cease all mileage and codeshare agreements as of March 1, 2020.
link to AA page
link to Travel Codex article
Earn AA Award Miles, EQM, EQD, EQS Flying Alaska / AS Again (as of 1 Apr 2020)
Mar 10, 2021, 11:22 am
#121
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YYF/YLW
Programs: AA, DL, AS, VA, WS Silver
Posts: 5,950
I would think it would be trivial for AA and AS to sort this out with the simple addition of three words on the AA earning chart; the fact that they haven’t is odd and annoying.
Mar 10, 2021, 7:42 pm
#122
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
It was, but that's when it was mapped to a sort of F class. Even though called First, it's really Business. This is reasonable, but I had been looking at the AA Special Fares table where 'i" is 20% and fearing the worst. Likely unreasonable but, as I have a number of 'I' bookings I was being pessimistic 
Especially after seeing the impact of the change on direct AS earnings.
Cheers.
Especially after seeing the impact of the change on direct AS earnings.
Cheers.
James
Mar 12, 2021, 4:25 pm
#123
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: COU
Programs: AA EXP, Bonvoy Ambassador, Hertz PC
Posts: 499
Quick question on short flights: does AA do the EQD/EQM calculation on actual miles, or do they use 500 as the minimum like on their own flights? I'm seeing some routes that include SEA-PDX for cheap that could be lucrative if the minimum is in effect.
Also just btw, looks like AA now has the new post-march-31 earnings table up with the new fare codes. Everything looks as expected I think.
Also just btw, looks like AA now has the new post-march-31 earnings table up with the new fare codes. Everything looks as expected I think.
Mar 12, 2021, 4:50 pm
#124
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SJC
Programs: AA EXP, BA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 33,533
Quick question on short flights: does AA do the EQD/EQM calculation on actual miles, or do they use 500 as the minimum like on their own flights? I'm seeing some routes that include SEA-PDX for cheap that could be lucrative if the minimum is in effect.
Also just btw, looks like AA now has the new post-march-31 earnings table up with the new fare codes. Everything looks as expected I think.
Also just btw, looks like AA now has the new post-march-31 earnings table up with the new fare codes. Everything looks as expected I think.
Chart was posted by AA a couple of days ago.
Cheers.
Mar 13, 2021, 6:20 am
#125
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: CMH
Programs: BA Gold, AA Plat, NK $9 fare club
Posts: 666
Mar 13, 2021, 10:27 am
#126
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: AA EP
Posts: 2,203
Isn’t the issue with Skywest in that Skywest can/does fly/operate for multiple airlines and one route could have an AS, UA, and AA flight number — at least they did in the past? That is why I understand that they have a regional affiliate name just for SKYWEST operated flights to differentiate them from Horizon.
there was some reason AS didn’t want to pay AA for miles on these flights.
there was some reason AS didn’t want to pay AA for miles on these flights.
There have been reports of issues getting AA credit for Skywest-operated AS flights, including customer service reps denying credit on appeal because Skywest is not listed on the AS earning chart. I too assume that it’s an oversight (complicated by the fact that AS doesn’t have a single regional brand like American Eagle or Delta Connection, a legacy of the strong brand currency of Horizon itself, especially in the many small communities in the Pacific NW in which Horizon is the only or dominant carrier and has been for a very long time).
I would think it would be trivial for AA and AS to sort this out with the simple addition of three words on the AA earning chart; the fact that they haven’t is odd and annoying.
I would think it would be trivial for AA and AS to sort this out with the simple addition of three words on the AA earning chart; the fact that they haven’t is odd and annoying.
Mar 13, 2021, 11:18 pm
#127
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: OC, CA
Programs: AA EXP, 2MM, HH Diamond
Posts: 832
Isn’t the issue with Skywest in that Skywest can/does fly/operate for multiple airlines and one route could have an AS, UA, and AA flight number — at least they did in the past? That is why I understand that they have a regional affiliate name just for SKYWEST operated flights to differentiate them from Horizon.
There have been reports of issues getting AA credit for Skywest-operated AS flights, including customer service reps denying credit on appeal because Skywest is not listed on the AS earning chart. I too assume that it’s an oversight (complicated by the fact that AS doesn’t have a single regional brand like American Eagle or Delta Connection, a legacy of the strong brand currency of Horizon itself, especially in the many small communities in the Pacific NW in which Horizon is the only or dominant carrier and has been for a very long time).
I would think it would be trivial for AA and AS to sort this out with the simple addition of three words on the AA earning chart; the fact that they haven’t is odd and annoying.
I would think it would be trivial for AA and AS to sort this out with the simple addition of three words on the AA earning chart; the fact that they haven’t is odd and annoying.
Last edited by hbtr; Mar 13, 2021 at 11:19 pm Reason: Clarification
Mar 20, 2021, 1:54 pm
#128
formerly jackvogt
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Atlanta, GA
Programs: Delta SkyMiles,
Posts: 822
Advantage miles on Alaska
It used to be that I could redeem AAdvantage miles on Alaska. I'm not seeing any options to use my points to fly Alaska now.
Do you have to call to find award availability?
Or am I dumb and did I miss that they are no longer allowing that?
Thanks.
Do you have to call to find award availability?
Or am I dumb and did I miss that they are no longer allowing that?
Thanks.
Mar 20, 2021, 2:17 pm
#129
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SFO
Programs: AA,UA,AS
Posts: 319
Alaska flights are still able to be booked online with Aadvantage miles. Its possible there's no inventory available on the flights you're looking for though. Make sure all airlines are selected when searching.
Mar 21, 2021, 6:30 pm
#130
formerly jackvogt
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Atlanta, GA
Programs: Delta SkyMiles,
Posts: 822
It seems like there is no inventory for many different dates, but there was a week ago. I just want to use my AAdvantage Miles to fly another airline other than AA
Mar 21, 2021, 7:34 pm
#131
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: DFW/DAL
Programs: AA Lifetime PLT, AS MVPG, HH Diamond, NCL Platinum Plus, MSC Diamond
Posts: 21,422
What is the routing you are looking for?
After AS joins OneWorld at the end of the month, you will able to use elite status for seating and free checked bags
Mar 21, 2021, 8:22 pm
#132
formerly jackvogt
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Atlanta, GA
Programs: Delta SkyMiles,
Posts: 822
I see availability for a lot of May, but after that, it just disappears which is unfortunate.
Cash prices aren't too bad right now so I can't decide if I should wait and see if something changes or just go ahead and book.
Mar 22, 2021, 2:47 am
#133
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That said, the outbound fare from DFW was only $158 when I booked June 19
The return June 27 was much higher but there were awards for 12500
Mar 22, 2021, 6:27 am
#134
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,046
Yep, almost certainly due to summer seasonal demand. If you look at the award availability calendar, there's no Alaska award availability from May 19th through August 23rd (based on non-stop flights). There's sporadic availability on Alaska showing on the calendar from August 24th onwards.
Mar 22, 2021, 11:14 am
#135
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
Yep, almost certainly due to summer seasonal demand. If you look at the award availability calendar, there's no Alaska award availability from May 19th through August 23rd (based on non-stop flights). There's sporadic availability on Alaska showing on the calendar from August 24th onwards.
James