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Old Apr 8, 2020, 2:04 pm
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In response to the SARS-CoV-2 novel Coronavirus pandemic economic slowdown and resultant decrease in travel, American Airlines is retiring 156 aircraft by removing four different models and some older 737 NG aircraft:

Airbus A330-300 (all 9 to be retired 2020)
Boeing 737-800 (76 older airframes)
Boeing 757-200 (remaining 34 to be retired by end of summer 2021 season, but last went to ROW in April)
Boeing 767-300 (last one of 17 in service this year retired to ROW / Roswell, NM on 31 March 2020)
Bombardier CRJ200 (19 to be retired)
Embraer E190 (20 to be retired during 2020)

Most of these are already parked.


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https://www-fool-com.cdn.ampproject....ccelerate.aspx

and

Newsroom - A fond farewell to five fantastic fleets - American Airlines Group, Inc.

American has officially retired the Embraer E190 and Boeing 767 fleets, which were originally scheduled to retire by the end of 2020. The airline has also accelerated the retirement of its Boeing 757s and Airbus A330-300s. Additionally, American is retiring 19 Bombardier CRJ200 aircraft operated by PSA Airlines.
See Memories of the AA Boeing 757 - retired 24 April 2020

and

Memories of the Boeing 767-300, retired 31 Mar 2020










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Old Mar 13, 2020, 8:55 pm
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Originally Posted by MSYtoJFKagain
I flew both the AA 767 (ex-JFK) and AA 757 (ex-CDG due to MX) about 18 months ago. I'll miss the 767 for the paired window seating in Y and the roominess compared to the 757 which can't leave service fast enough IMO. I don't mind single aisle in shorter TATL most of the time but the seats on the AA 757 are the worst of any used for those routes.
AMEN! I love the 767 configuration, but I cannot stand the 757.
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Old Mar 13, 2020, 11:29 pm
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The LAA 75L I loved....it had inseat AVOD....decent seats and a small cabin.

LUS removed the AVOD which just looks odd.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 12:08 am
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Originally Posted by cmd320
I would argue that the 737MAX is the most maintenance intensive aircraft in the fleet.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 1:14 am
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Curious what the plan is for the international 757 routes? There’s nothing with lie-flat that small until the 321XLR arrives in 2023, if I’m reading things right ?

I guess the answer is probably the one-a-day routes are suspended and routes like Lima (3 757s a day) get one or two widebodies instead...? Or is there the intention to put some lie-flats in MAXes?
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 6:58 am
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Originally Posted by PHL
It's possible you flew another airline that had the screens in coach on a 767. .
I think you confused me with the other poster - I was on the No Seatback Screens side.

But not having them was a AA issue - not a platform issue. As said, I actually liked the platform.

Anyone know what will happen to them when retired? Mothballed? Sold?
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:17 am
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Originally Posted by QtownDave
Anyone know what will happen to them when retired? Mothballed? Sold?
They will become cargo freighters. The 767 is very desirable for cargo.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:45 am
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The 763s/LAA 757s have screen throughout the cabin 1980s style. Although dated inside the 763s are probably the most comfortable AA a/c in Y and I found the J seats also pretty decent, particularly the even number rows. Also a nice J seat ratio for the domestic routes they served. The last batch are the newer models and seem to be less maintenance prone.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 6:54 pm
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Dated or not, with 86% of the coach seats NOT being middle seats, it’s hard to find a better config than 2-3-2 if you’re in the back of the bus. I’d rather take a 767 and bring my own IFE any day than travel in a 10-across 777 or even the shiny new 787s.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 9:49 pm
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Based on this announcement, the 767s may be done next week: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...ul-flying.html
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Old Mar 16, 2020, 12:29 pm
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Originally Posted by donotblink
I've been back and forth between NYC and EGE all season and I've really been enjoying the 757 J and MCE seats on that route.
I couldn't even pay to upgrade to MCE as we were down-gauged from the 767 due to MX. Can't speak to the front but the back was awful. What sticks out was having fantastic crews on both legs. The 767 leg was particularly memorable as it was a mostly French crew which I had not seen on an US carrier before.
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Old Mar 16, 2020, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by PHL
I will say I will miss the 757/767 once they are gone. They served a great purpose for many years and I always enjoyed the ride. But you can't keep running a PC with MS DOS forever...
thought this was only about airplanes, I didn't see any announcements regarding changes to aa.com
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Old Mar 16, 2020, 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by MSYtoJFKagain
I couldn't even pay to upgrade to MCE as we were down-gauged from the 767 due to MX. Can't speak to the front but the back was awful. What sticks out was having fantastic crews on both legs. The 767 leg was particularly memorable as it was a mostly French crew which I had not seen on an US carrier before.
I dislike the AA 757 in coach for domestic flights even, very uncomfortable seats.
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Old Mar 16, 2020, 8:00 pm
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Originally Posted by HiAperture
I dislike the AA 757 in coach for domestic flights even, very uncomfortable seats.
9BCDE are some of the best coach seats along with row 11 on the LAA A321s.
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Old Mar 16, 2020, 9:28 pm
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Maybe it's me but I found the 767 to be incredibly noisy in the Y cabin, worse than any other current airliner. Will not miss these old Screamliners.
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Old Mar 17, 2020, 2:10 am
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Originally Posted by born sleepy
Maybe it's me but I found the 767 to be incredibly noisy in the Y cabin, worse than any other current airliner. Will not miss these old Screamliners.
Quite surprising that the 767 doesn't hold up to modern standards, considering that it was developed 40 years ago!
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