Legacy Aircraft Still Flying in current AA Fleet?
Mar 5, 2020, 7:55 am
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https://m.planespotters.net/photo/10...eing-737-823wl
Picture taken in JAN20 - I do not see any part of the new livery on there.
Picture taken in JAN20 - I do not see any part of the new livery on there.
Mar 5, 2020, 10:21 am
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In 1983 Eastern became the launch customer of Boeing's 757, which was ordered in 1978. Borman felt that its low cost of operation would make it an invaluable asset to the airline in the years to come. However, higher oil prices failed to materialize and the debt created by this purchase coupled with the Airbus A300 purchases in 1977 contributed to the February 1986 sale to Frank Lorenzo's Texas Air. At that time, Eastern was paying over $700,000 in interest each day before they sold a ticket, fueled, or boarded a single aircraft.
The above is from Wikipedia, but I believe that it is accurate.
The above is from Wikipedia, but I believe that it is accurate.
Mar 5, 2020, 10:27 am
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Back in 1999 I was flying LGA/BOS when LUS flew single class A320s on the LGA/DCA and LGA/BOS routes. The pilot announced that we were flying on a "spanking brand new A320" and that was going to be the future of air travel. He also pointed out to the 727 at the next gate that was going to be soon retired. Well the future was single class air travel but with a 28 inch seat pitch.
Mar 5, 2020, 10:07 pm
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No A321s at HP, they were lead sleds on a summer climb out. But there were four B742s and 13 Dash 8s. The B752s from EA had Rolls Royce engines, not those noisy Pratts.
Mar 6, 2020, 10:10 am
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Yes pm-US operated a few A321 PHX departures daily. The airplanes essentially had 35 more seats and fuel tanks welded to the rear of an A320 fuselage without adding much in the way of thrust or lifting surface. Consequently US needed to depart on the landing runway 8/26 and would sometimes need special handling to climb over terrain and contain its climbout inside Class B airspace.
Mar 6, 2020, 11:26 am
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At least it was a nice foot massage when they did actually fly!
Mar 6, 2020, 11:28 am
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Lived in Flagstaff for a couple of years and had the "joy" of flying in the dash-8. Reliability was so bad, I'd often get a call from the FLG airport agent to tell me I needed to come down early to get on the van to PHX to make my connection.
At least it was a nice foot massage when they did actually fly!
At least it was a nice foot massage when they did actually fly!
What flies into Flag now--ER4?
Mar 6, 2020, 2:37 pm
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Yes pm-US operated a few A321 PHX departures daily. The airplanes essentially had 35 more seats and fuel tanks welded to the rear of an A320 fuselage without adding much in the way of thrust or lifting surface. Consequently US needed to depart on the landing runway 8/26 and would sometimes need special handling to climb over terrain and contain its climbout inside Class B airspace.
Mar 6, 2020, 4:02 pm
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I just wish AA had consistency in their airplanes. Some 737s have TVs, some don't. Some A321s have power, some don't. Some actually have a decent amount of MCE, some have a bulk head and an exit row. Some A319s seem semi-decent and some look like they are on their very last leg and totally falling apart. Doug needs to focus on the passenger experience and right now it's all over the place at least domestically.
Mar 6, 2020, 4:10 pm
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Mar 6, 2020, 5:07 pm
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I just wish AA had consistency in their airplanes. Some 737s have TVs, some don't. Some A321s have power, some don't. Some actually have a decent amount of MCE, some have a bulk head and an exit row. Some A319s seem semi-decent and some look like they are on their very last leg and totally falling apart. Doug needs to focus on the passenger experience and right now it's all over the place at least domestically.