A Passenger Reclined her Seat, then her Seat Became a Punching Bag
Feb 15, 2020, 9:31 am
#91
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Antarius is exactly correct. Every passenger has an overhead light. If I want to use the light to read during an evening flight, but the passenger next to me wants to sleep and my overhead light bothers him, I am still entitled to use the overhead light. And the FA should honor that right, even though it inconveniences the passenger next to me. That is how the plane was designed to be used.
Common courtesy suggests that in cramped quarters, everyone should be respectful of others and undertake to not violate the social mores of coach class travel. But if the passenger in front of me reclines their seat to the maximum extent possible, and does so even after a polite request otherwise, that is their right - infuriating as it may be.
Common courtesy suggests that in cramped quarters, everyone should be respectful of others and undertake to not violate the social mores of coach class travel. But if the passenger in front of me reclines their seat to the maximum extent possible, and does so even after a polite request otherwise, that is their right - infuriating as it may be.
Feb 15, 2020, 9:53 am
#92
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Guy is in the wrong obviously. She paid for a seat that reclines. While he can REQUEST that she doesn't recline, he can't force her not to. He did not pay to make contact constantly with the back of her seat. Don't like people reclining on you? There are seats on the plane that prevent that from happening .. buy one of those. If they aren't available, take a different flight. If you HAVE to take this flight, be an adult and realize you don't always get your way.
Feb 15, 2020, 11:57 am
#94
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What "series of unrecorded aggressive moves" could ever justify him repeatedly punching the back of her seat? If he was being put upon in other ways than the seat recline, he should have contacted a flight attendant, not hammered the back of her seat. Also, I see no justification at all for wondering that.
He basically assaulted her.
He basically assaulted her.
Feb 15, 2020, 12:01 pm
#95
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The problem with social media is that what you have are 2 adults behaving like adolescents and a trivial encounter getting way too much attention. You do not know what she did before filming either. So all you are doing is taking the word of someone posting a grievance on twitter. If it was serious she could have called for charges to be laid but did not. Is that because she contributed to the altercation? Do you know she didnt slam the seat back in a manner that caused an issue to him? Was his punching the seat just a frustrated push on the back of the seat to get a bit moor room? who knows and who really cares. Its a 2 hr flight, Im sure either one could have compromised and not be inconvenienced but much better to have a viral story on twitter about perceived injustices.
On the other hand, I once asked politely a woman to raise the window shade at least half way during the 2-3 minutes before landing for safety reasons and she almost attacked me like Pearl Harbor. She demanded that she had the sole right to decide and that I was picking on her because she was Black. ??!! I had to seek refuge with a flight attendant because I was afraid she's punch me. The flight attendant gave me refuge for a few minutes in hopes that the woman would calm down.
Feb 15, 2020, 12:17 pm
#96
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I believe that a likely scenario is that the woman had harsh words for the man followed by retaliatory seat banging.
On the other hand, I once asked politely a woman to raise the window shade at least half way during the 2-3 minutes before landing for safety reasons and she almost attacked me like Pearl Harbor. She demanded that she had the sole right to decide and that I was picking on her because she was Black. ??!! I had to seek refuge with a flight attendant because I was afraid she's punch me. The flight attendant gave me refuge for a few minutes in hopes that the woman would calm down.
On the other hand, I once asked politely a woman to raise the window shade at least half way during the 2-3 minutes before landing for safety reasons and she almost attacked me like Pearl Harbor. She demanded that she had the sole right to decide and that I was picking on her because she was Black. ??!! I had to seek refuge with a flight attendant because I was afraid she's punch me. The flight attendant gave me refuge for a few minutes in hopes that the woman would calm down.
Whole damn country has been in a really bad mood for 4 years.
I thank goodness I have a passport and use it regularly.
Feb 15, 2020, 12:35 pm
#97
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news headlines: punching, pummeling, attacking, etc - ridiculous! what i see in the video is someone shaking the seat. they are both acting like little children. if i were AA, i'd just ban them both. if i were them, i'd move on with life, wendi is just making it worse for herself at this point.
Feb 15, 2020, 2:34 pm
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Feb 15, 2020, 3:46 pm
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Feb 15, 2020, 6:49 pm
#102
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I'm pretty certain that the person sitting next to Wendy was also affected by the constant movement of the seat. Shared armrests? The FA should have offered Wendy the free drinks rather then the a hole behind her.
Feb 15, 2020, 6:52 pm
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Feb 15, 2020, 6:57 pm
#104
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You just read the headline and did not watch the video. What is showed was a guy tapping the back of the headrest. If something happened before the video then that is a different matter but is subject to conjecture. What he was doing is certainly about the same impact of a 5 yo child kicking the back of the seat. An irritation yes, assault, no. If this is assault I have assaulted dozens of people using seatback video screens.
Feb 15, 2020, 7:04 pm
#105
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You are either not a "reasonable person" or don't know what a "reasonable person" is. I will not say someone knocking on your front door is a threat of violence, guess you're wrong there. Unless if they were yelling "I would like to kill you, but don't worry, this isn't considered assault, ask geminidreams."