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Where will all the extra planes be flying with China cancellations?

Where will all the extra planes be flying with China cancellations?

Old Feb 6, 20, 10:55 am
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I hear there are some routes ex-JFK they could pick back up.....oh wait thatís all blamed on the MAX issues and the now done runway construction 🙄
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Old Feb 6, 20, 11:14 am
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Originally Posted by econometrics View Post
This, most likely: https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1223691201695703040

I do wonder, however, if some equipment up-gauges will happen. E.g. 77Ws to TYO instead of 772s?
That's a REAL up-gauge!
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Old Feb 6, 20, 1:06 pm
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I recall years back (15+ maybe) reading in an industry magazine that airlines generate more revenue from cargo than pax, especially on the widebodies. Is that still the case? Was it ever the case? If so, wouldn't AA want (need?) to fly their schedule just for the cargo business?
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Old Feb 6, 20, 1:11 pm
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I recall years back (15+ maybe) reading in an industry magazine that airlines generate more revenue from cargo than pax, especially on the widebodies. Is that still the case? Was it ever the case? If so, wouldn't AA want (need?) to fly their schedule just for the cargo business?
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Old Feb 6, 20, 2:56 pm
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Originally Posted by AAir_head View Post
I recall years back (15+ maybe) reading in an industry magazine that airlines generate more revenue from cargo than pax, especially on the widebodies. Is that still the case? Was it ever the case? If so, wouldn't AA want (need?) to fly their schedule just for the cargo business?
AA had $42 billion of passenger revenue in 2019 and less than $900 million of cargo revenue, so it isn't even close.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...it991q4-19.htm

There could be some specific routes where cargo is critical to the profitability of the route.
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Old Feb 6, 20, 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by AAir_head View Post
I recall years back (15+ maybe) reading in an industry magazine that airlines generate more revenue from cargo than pax, especially on the widebodies. Is that still the case?
No.
Was it ever the case?
No.

One might be able to pick through years and years of route-level data to find the odd segment here and there (and there would likely be a big directional imbalance) that had more cargo revenue than passenger revenue but categorically cargo revenue has never been close to passenger revenue in its importance to passenger airlines.
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Old Feb 6, 20, 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by skydve1 View Post
I wish. I would be the first to book some of those flights.
Those were some of my favorite 'novelty' planes from when I used to jump a ton. There's nothing like running out of the back of a casa at 15k!
At 15k you were a HAHO/ HALO jumper. Very cool...... My last fixed wing jump was out of a Casa C-212. I was the last out, missed the drop zone, and ended up in a farmer's pile of hay. My only good result from missing a DZ.
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Old Feb 6, 20, 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by GunsOfNavarone View Post
At 15k you were a HAHO/ HALO jumper. Very cool...... My last fixed wing jump was out of a Casa C-212. I was the last out, missed the drop zone, and ended up in a farmer's pile of hay. My only good result from missing a DZ.
I've done one from 25k out of a King Air. I was in the last group out, and we spent about 22k (almost 3 mins) tracking back to the DZ (we made it).
We had to breathe oxygen from about 12k until just before exit to avoid hypoxia. It was the same oxygen system used on the commercial planes... and it's true that the bag does not inflate even though oxygen is flowing! Everytime I hear that phrase, I remember that king air jump!
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Old Feb 6, 20, 5:07 pm
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Originally Posted by econometrics View Post
Thatís so past decade.

Itís LIT-HND now.

*** Pending Government Approval***
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