Where will all the extra planes be flying with China cancellations?
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I hear there are some routes ex-JFK they could pick back up.....oh wait thats all blamed on the MAX issues and the now done runway construction 🙄
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This, most likely: https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1223691201695703040
I do wonder, however, if some equipment up-gauges will happen. E.g. 77Ws to TYO instead of 772s?
I do wonder, however, if some equipment up-gauges will happen. E.g. 77Ws to TYO instead of 772s?
Look, Olympic Games are on the horizon! Larger planes, more profits!
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I recall years back (15+ maybe) reading in an industry magazine that airlines generate more revenue from cargo than pax, especially on the widebodies. Is that still the case? Was it ever the case? If so, wouldn't AA want (need?) to fly their schedule just for the cargo business?
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I recall years back (15+ maybe) reading in an industry magazine that airlines generate more revenue from cargo than pax, especially on the widebodies. Is that still the case? Was it ever the case? If so, wouldn't AA want (need?) to fly their schedule just for the cargo business?
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I recall years back (15+ maybe) reading in an industry magazine that airlines generate more revenue from cargo than pax, especially on the widebodies. Is that still the case? Was it ever the case? If so, wouldn't AA want (need?) to fly their schedule just for the cargo business?
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...it991q4-19.htm
There could be some specific routes where cargo is critical to the profitability of the route.
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Was it ever the case?
One might be able to pick through years and years of route-level data to find the odd segment here and there (and there would likely be a big directional imbalance) that had more cargo revenue than passenger revenue but categorically cargo revenue has never been close to passenger revenue in its importance to passenger airlines.
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At 15k you were a HAHO/ HALO jumper. Very cool...... My last fixed wing jump was out of a Casa C-212. I was the last out, missed the drop zone, and ended up in a farmer's pile of hay. My only good result from missing a DZ.
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We had to breathe oxygen from about 12k until just before exit to avoid hypoxia. It was the same oxygen system used on the commercial planes... and it's true that the bag does not inflate even though oxygen is flowing! Everytime I hear that phrase, I remember that king air jump!
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