AA and APA / pilot union impasse
Jan 30, 2020, 10:09 am
#16
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Agree with above sentiment, unless AA misses big on revenue or profit, DP will be safe there.
The only wild card is if the union decided to take a long profound strikes in French style, but that could be a double edge sword, and definitely not welcomed by FT community.
The only wild card is if the union decided to take a long profound strikes in French style, but that could be a double edge sword, and definitely not welcomed by FT community.
Jan 30, 2020, 10:20 am
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Jan 30, 2020, 10:47 am
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Take a look at how Amazon treats their warehouse employees, and tell me how different it is from 1900? And a lot of the laws that are in place exist as a result of union feedback or lawsuits.
Jan 30, 2020, 11:38 am
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Jan 30, 2020, 12:25 pm
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Why should they let the two groups duke it out? How about AA settles with BOTH their unions, and finds the money to do so from somewhere else... Like Doug Parker's compensation. He makes $13,000,000 a year (source), which would pay for 250 mechanics (based on $52,000/yr source). I don't see him contributing 250 heads towards the company's success!
Jan 30, 2020, 1:12 pm
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Okay, the point about the two unions duking out was mostly in jest. But it seems like one of the main complaints that the pilots union had was around on-time/reliability. Maybe that's just a talking point for them, but what they really want is more pay. But if the issue really is operational reliability, I think you could probably blame some fraction of AA's YoY fall in on time% on the mechanics slowdown.
Jan 30, 2020, 5:01 pm
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True, but does not the FA sets all the rules, rest times etc... on a pay part, well that is another story
Jan 30, 2020, 10:20 pm
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No, the FAA sets mostly safety related stuff, these days erring on the side of profits. In the last few years there’s been a lot of quiet deregulation, not just in aviation but many areas of public safety. Most of these regulations came from tombstones. Deaths and serious injuries.
Jan 30, 2020, 11:58 pm
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I am curious to see what the terms of the five tentative TWU contracts look like. Perhaps that will give a clue to what degree the company may accommodate the APA demands.
Jan 31, 2020, 6:43 am
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Jan 31, 2020, 9:25 am
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