Thinking of dropping AA for Delta

Old Jan 13, 20, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by ggonzaga View Post
I found out I can buy day passes for the ACs. Depending on how often I fly out of Boston it might make more sense to get the annual membership. Just $600 that stings to spend haha
Keep in mind that you must have a same day boarding pass on an AA flight to get access to an AC. In other words, you canít get into an AC on days when you might be flying Delta even with an AC membership.
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Old Jan 13, 20, 12:11 pm
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Originally Posted by ggonzaga View Post
I feel like having OW elite status is something I value especially when flying BA or LATAM for example, but flying Delta would give me SkyClub access in Boston that I wouldn't otherwise have. I don't think I'd get anything else out of SkyTeam elite status other than priority boarding and the lounge access (not sure if I'd be allowed in just for being Gold Medallion or because
For international travel down the road, keep in mind that LATAM is set to leave OW in October, 2020. Indicators are that it will be for a bilateral partnership with Delta rather than SkyTeam membership. So for broader Americas travel in 2021, GM status could gain value
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Old Jan 13, 20, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by metallo View Post
First, just to clarify... I assume you mean that you prefer the Centurion Lounge in MIA compared to the Admirals Club (not the Flagship Lounge), correct? In my opinion, the MIA Flagship Lounge is far superior to the Centurion Lounge, although I could see the reason one may pick the Centurion over the Admirals Club, except I hate the Centurion Lounge crowds. DL lounges are virtually always crowded, in my experience, by the way.

I also see a fair amount of value in OWE status, and it's certainly far superior to anything with SkyTeam, although if you're not traveling internationally, it probably doesn't make much difference.

I'm somewhat curious exactly what happened to you at the BOS AC -- could you provide further detail about that? You mean they initially admitted you to the club and later hunted you down and made you leave? Did they basically publicly shame you in front of others in the club and escort you out?
I'm actually under 21 so I'm not allowed into the Flagship lounges. It's the most annoying thing ever. When I was flying a lot on the MIA-LHR route, I was going to AC often since I didn't have my Platinum AMEX. What they would do is have an employee escort me into the Flagship lounge and watch me pick food and what not, but then escort me into the Admirals Club. I'm not allowed into Flagship because of the open bar, which is really annoying because I wouldn't even drink.

I do travel internationally reasonably often, so I do value being a oneworld member.

As for the BOS AC, it wasn't horrible but definitely annoying. They scanned my boarding pass and said there was an error and that something was "processing" on my account. The lady asked if I had just qualified recently and I said no I'm a member for all of 2019, I didn't understand why an error was showing up. She asked if I was the primary on the account and I said yes because I thought she was just new in the job and didn't know what she was talking about (later I realized that she was referring to the credit card). Eventually she saw my elite status and said that I was all set but that she was going to call AA to find out what's going on. Later, I was getting some water and getting ready to leave for my flight and the same lady at the check in desk finds me and pulls me aside. She explained that there's no payment method on file for a membership and that if I wanted to stay I would have to purchase the AC membership for $600 (no mention of a day pass). I told her I didn't know I couldn't enter on a domestic itinerary and apologized as I was traveling mainly internationally so I didn't know any better. My flight was about to board so I had no issue with leaving. She said that I could stay for today if I wanted to, but she said that after I told her my flight was boarding. I guess she said that only to take some guilt off her shoulders, but it was really a bluff. I was courteous to her and the other staff I interacted with because it's not their fault (apart from erroneously letting me in, but I'm not complaining) and plus if I get a membership I want to be in good terms with the staff there. She also mentioned that my account with AC is flagged, whatever that means. Oh well...
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Old Jan 13, 20, 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge View Post
I wouldn't necessarily think the 777 flight will be an easy upgrade. As a PLT PRO I've haven't cleared the upgrade list on the 777 MIA/DFW flight for the last 3 flights.
It's crazy, there can't be that many EXP and CKs in a given flight! I absolutely hate Plat Pro. I was so excited to be EXP from Plat a while back and then I checked and saw that they added this extra step in the way. Sucks, but I guess they're trying to make EXP as exclusive as possible. Although clearly doesn't look like it's working too well, it's impossible to clear these upgrades
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Old Jan 13, 20, 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by saunders111 View Post
I switched from AA to Delta last fall despite AA having a much more frequent schedule out of my home airport, ABQ. The bottom line is that I prefer Delta because the AA response to IRROPS was repeatedly a giant middle finger to me as a PLT. Having frequent flights from DFW to ABQ did me no good at all, if I was sitting in DCA pleading with surly customer facing employees about getting a seat on a flight that had tickets for sale, after a mechanical cancellation.

Having now flown on Delta for about six months, I have to say the ONE thing that I miss from AA, as a former PLT, is MCE access at time of booking. Delta does that wrong, treating Comfort+ as an upgrade for GLD and PLT that might or might not happen after booking.

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How much better is C+ on Delta flights? My round trip for Delta was outbound first class and return in economy, but I was being offered to upgrade to C+ for $69 and to first for $184. I upgraded to first because I wasn't sure how much better C+ is, and I'm assuming that I'd earn more MQMs by flying first class if the Delta system is anything like the AA system. But yes, MCE is great and I love how we get it for free having elite status.
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Old Jan 13, 20, 12:29 pm
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Given that you already know that your travel behavior this year will be largely domestic (and even the route at that), there's no better time to try!

The calculus might be more complicated if you were still flying significant international trips.
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Old Jan 13, 20, 12:30 pm
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Originally Posted by ggonzaga View Post
It's crazy, there can't be that many EXP and CKs in a given flight! I absolutely hate Plat Pro. I was so excited to be EXP from Plat a while back and then I checked and saw that they added this extra step in the way. Sucks, but I guess they're trying to make EXP as exclusive as possible. Although clearly doesn't look like it's working too well, it's impossible to clear these upgrades
You're forgetting that there is going to be a not insignificant number of paid F class passengers as well. As long as the market/economy is healthy, people will spring for a lay-flat seat.
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Old Jan 13, 20, 12:30 pm
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Not sure I agree on this. If its a widebody, a lot of FFs will target that flight as being desirable.

On the other hand, a 772 will have PE. And domestically, PE is sold as Y. Its as good as domestic first. Which means, for the most part, if I don't get upgraded on MIA-BOS on a 772, or DFW-LAX on a 789, its not the end of the world - at all.
Yes, I was flying economy with AA BOS-MIA this weekend for the outbound and when I was putting my luggage on the overhead bin, I saw that the person next to me had put their suitcase and it had an EXP luggage tag. That's when I knew I was SOL for an upgrade haha
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Old Jan 13, 20, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by IADCAflyer View Post
You're forgetting that there is going to be a not insignificant number of paid F class passengers as well. As long as the market/economy is healthy, people will spring for a lay-flat seat.
Yes of course, but when I'm in a domestic flight and I see 15 names on the upgrade list screen and I'm in 10th place, that's when I realize there's a lot of frequent fliers on the routes that I take especially.
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Old Jan 13, 20, 12:38 pm
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Originally Posted by ggonzaga View Post
Yes of course, but when I'm in a domestic flight and I see 15 names on the upgrade list screen and I'm in 10th place, that's when I realize there's a lot of frequent fliers on the routes that I take especially.
As I said, people on certain trip planning sets see a wide body and gravitate to it. My SO, flew PHL-LAS last night for work on the A-330-200. There were 37 people on the upgrade list. The flight was F0 24 hours out. I've flown LAX-DFW three times on the 789 and those upgrade lists have been 40+.
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Old Jan 13, 20, 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by IADCAflyer View Post
Not sure I agree on this. If its a widebody, a lot of FFs will target that flight as being desirable.

On the other hand, a 772 will have PE. And domestically, PE is sold as Y. Its as good as domestic first. Which means, for the most part, if I don't get upgraded on MIA-BOS on a 772, or DFW-LAX on a 789, its not the end of the world - at all.
That's it, assuming you book early enough for PE seats to be still available. Because that's where all these 40 elites on the upgrade list sit, lol...
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Old Jan 13, 20, 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge View Post
The OP is considering buying an AC membership. I've found that the AC staff will be very proactive in helping with re-routes compared to a TA or GA that just wants you to go away and accept whatever you are being told. It's AC staff that will make a telephone call to make something happen. Doing your own research helps them help you. The AC staff can also find out the true story behind a mechanical delay other than the detail less story you get from a GA.
That's good to know, I never thought that the AC staff would help with issues like that. For the most part I've been happy with calling in the 1-800 number for the Platinum members, I've almost always been addressed with no wait and by competent reps. Not as fancy as the EXP or CK line, I'm sure, but it's still nice to have. I'll definitely take that into consideration with buying the AC membership. Thanks for that
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Old Jan 13, 20, 12:57 pm
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Delta status is much harder to achieve than AA due to the multipliers received for cabin classes. Delta maxes out at 1.5x MQM (unless you pay FULL fare) for business/first, whereas AA and Oneworld partners it is much more common to get 2x EQM (or more) for business/first. If you just fly economy a lot, then this is of no concern to you. However, if you fly internationally a lot via business class like me, AA status comes much more quickly. JAT.
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Old Jan 13, 20, 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by ggonzaga View Post
I've thought of this and will look into it, but I already have 2 credit cards in the US and I'm not a US citizen. It was a pain in the neck to get approved for the AMEX Plat because I don't have a SSN, I wonder if it'll be a struggle too with this Citi card. I know 2 cards isn't much but feels like a lot when you have to put in the work to prove your identity since I don't have a SSN to provide them.
Perhaps this is a case where the OP should consider trying to go for status on another OneWorld airline, and then crediting AA flights to that? If s/he can reach mid tier, wouldn't that get him lounge access in the US on domestic flights?
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Old Jan 13, 20, 1:01 pm
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You could consider picking up the Citi Executive AA card. For a $450 annual fee, you get admirals club access + a 50k AA point bonus. For me, the frequency of flights would matter much more than domestic lounge access. For my domestic non-stops, I try to completely minimize the time in the airport and skip lounges all together.

https://creditcards.aa.com/citi-exec...rlines-direct/
I think that this would be the most logical approach to your problem, although I recognize the issue with obtaining it. (Age and citizenship)

However, besides the two benefits already mentioned, the one I value is the access to help when there are irregular operations. Furthermore, by getting the CC, you get a discount of $150 (25%) over the regular price of admission. That is a nice deal, IMO.
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