ARCHIVE: HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Which, Access, Rules (<2019)
Oct 24, 2014, 3:23 am
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ARCHIVE: HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Which, Access, Rules (<2019)
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According to the current wording for QF Club members at http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...cess/global/en
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even AA flight numbers would seem to be no longer eligible
According to the current wording for QF Club members at http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...cess/global/en
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even AA flight numbers would seem to be no longer eligible
Partner Lounges
When travelling with American Airlines, as a Qantas Club member you and a guest are welcome at American Airlines Admirals Club lounges. Simply present your Qantas Club card together with your boarding pass at the lounge reception. Both you and your guest need to be travelling together further that day on a flight marketed^ and operated by the partner airline whose lounge you wish to visit.
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When travelling with American Airlines, as a Qantas Club member you and a guest are welcome at American Airlines Admirals Club lounges. Simply present your Qantas Club card together with your boarding pass at the lounge reception. Both you and your guest need to be travelling together further that day on a flight marketed^ and operated by the partner airline whose lounge you wish to visit.
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Oct 24, 2014, 3:32 am
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I would suggest the Qantas web site is contradictory at worst: (http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...#in-the-lounge)
Although it is problematic for those travelling on USair Flight numbers or metal if trying to access AC's solely via paid QP membership.
Although it is problematic for those travelling on USair Flight numbers or metal if trying to access AC's solely via paid QP membership.
Not just US flight numbers, the flight has to be AA operated AND marketed
Oct 25, 2014, 4:47 pm
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This, of course, would be transitional with the future seeing the end of USair marketed flights and USair metal.
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Apr 28, 2015, 11:35 am
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AA Changes Admirals Club Member Access to Qantas Clubs?
At least as recently as November 2014, flying QF domestically, for instance, Admirals Club (annual and thirty day) members were iirc able to use Qantas Clubs the day of flight. Am I misremembering?
The new wording on aa.com:
Looking at a specific lounge, ADL / Adelaide:
The new wording on aa.com:
Select Qantas Clubs when departing on the same day on an American Airlines operated flight or an American marketed flight operated by Qantas. Link
The Qantas Club
Must present your membership card (or 30 Day Membership receipt) and boarding pass at lounge check-in counter for same day travel on an American Airlines or US Airways operated flight or an American Airlines marketed flight operated by Qantas.
Must present your membership card (or 30 Day Membership receipt) and boarding pass at lounge check-in counter for same day travel on an American Airlines or US Airways operated flight or an American Airlines marketed flight operated by Qantas.
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Apr 28, 2015, 5:14 pm
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You are correct that it has changed. The previous wording was:
Access to nearly 40 Admirals Club locations worldwide and over 30 international lounges operated by oneworld® partner Qantas (must be traveling on Qantas operated flight for access to Qantas lounges). And as an added benefit, Admirals Club members also now have access to 18 US Airways Clubs.
Apr 29, 2015, 2:43 am
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Yes: a negative change.
A post from another thread
Will the same restriction be applied to Qantas Club members on AA flights?
A post from another thread
Seemed a reasonable place to highlight, given that purchasing 30 day memberships seems to get raised here from time to time, that AA seems to have changed the terms of access to Qantas lounges to limit to departures on AA flight numbers
From http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...nge-access.jsp
From http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...nge-access.jsp
Originally Posted by AA
Select Qantas Clubs when departing on the same day on an American Airlines operated flight or an American marketed flight operated by Qantas
Select Qantas Clubs when departing on the same day on an American Airlines operated flight or an American marketed flight operated by Qantas
Apr 29, 2015, 4:51 am
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Funny, I was looking at getting an Admiral's Club membership last weekend, thinking it would get me into The Qantas Club (more of my flying is in Australia than the US, I don't fly OneWorld enough to get the required status, a Qantas Club membership is more money than Admiral's Club, and I was thinking of getting the membership via the Citi Executive card anyway).
I came across the same thing on the AA site. At the time, I just assumed I had misremembered the bit about reciprocal club access, but after seeing this thread I guess it really has changed.
With respect to reciprocity, in the Qantas Club access page on the Qantas website it says:
It looks like you need to be flying on a QF flight number to access an Admiral's Club lounge. So, it seems this is a reciprocal deal and neither side has it better than the other. Seems like a fairly limited benefit then...
I came across the same thing on the AA site. At the time, I just assumed I had misremembered the bit about reciprocal club access, but after seeing this thread I guess it really has changed.
With respect to reciprocity, in the Qantas Club access page on the Qantas website it says:
Each time you travel on a Qantas or Jetstar flight number you will have access to:
- All Qantas Club lounges when travelling within Australia
- All Qantas International Business Lounges when travelling overseas
- Emirates Business Lounge in Dubai
- American Airlines® Admirals Club lounges in London and other locations - visit www.aa.com for lounge locations
- Associated lounges in most international ports that Qantas flies to but where there is no Qantas or partner airline lounge. Our associated lounges are operated by, or on behalf of, other airlines
Apr 29, 2015, 7:51 am
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Funny, I was looking at getting an Admiral's Club membership last weekend, thinking it would get me into The Qantas Club (more of my flying is in Australia than the US, I don't fly OneWorld enough to get the required status, a Qantas Club membership is more money than Admiral's Club, and I was thinking of getting the membership via the Citi Executive card anyway).
I came across the same thing on the AA site. At the time, I just assumed I had misremembered the bit about reciprocal club access, but after seeing this thread I guess it really has changed.
With respect to reciprocity, in the Qantas Club access page on the Qantas website it says:
It looks like you need to be flying on a QF flight number to access an Admiral's Club lounge. So, it seems this is a reciprocal deal and neither side has it better than the other. Seems like a fairly limited benefit then...
I came across the same thing on the AA site. At the time, I just assumed I had misremembered the bit about reciprocal club access, but after seeing this thread I guess it really has changed.
With respect to reciprocity, in the Qantas Club access page on the Qantas website it says:
It looks like you need to be flying on a QF flight number to access an Admiral's Club lounge. So, it seems this is a reciprocal deal and neither side has it better than the other. Seems like a fairly limited benefit then...
: td:
Apr 29, 2015, 8:00 am
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Please note Qantas Club access by Admirals Club members has changed significantly and has become much more restrictive. You no longer gain access when flying Qantas; you must be flying AA or an AA codeshare operated by Qantas the same day!
From the wiki:
From the wiki:
Admirals Club members
As an Admirals Club annual, lifetime or 30-day member, Citi® / AAdvantage® Executive Card primary cardholder, or AirPass member with Admirals Club privileges, you’re welcome to access:
The Qantas Club (There are 37 Qantas Clubs)
Must present your membership card (or 30 Day Membership receipt) and boarding pass at lounge check-in counter for same day travel on an American Airlines or US Airways operated flight or an American Airlines marketed flight operated by Qantas. (This is a significant change to previous policy.)
When you arrive, please present your:
(N.B. This appears to be a recent and significant change that allowed Admirals Club members to access Qantas Clubs the same day they are flying Qantas.
As an Admirals Club annual, lifetime or 30-day member, Citi® / AAdvantage® Executive Card primary cardholder, or AirPass member with Admirals Club privileges, you’re welcome to access:
The Qantas Club (There are 37 Qantas Clubs)
Must present your membership card (or 30 Day Membership receipt) and boarding pass at lounge check-in counter for same day travel on an American Airlines or US Airways operated flight or an American Airlines marketed flight operated by Qantas. (This is a significant change to previous policy.)
When you arrive, please present your:
- Government-issued photo ID
- Admirals Club (or US Airways Club) membership card
- Boarding pass for same day travel when accessing Qantas... Lounges.
Apr 29, 2015, 8:15 am
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So, in light of JDiver's updates, now I don't feel quite so bad for giving up my long-time Admirals Club membership/Citi Exec card for the Prestige's mere Admirals Club "access." And of course that's not going to work for any partner lounges, including Qantas's.
For me this is all admittedly somewhat theoretical since I've never been to Australia -- no non-stop from DFW. Until just this past year. Now whenever one of my flights taxis past Terminal D, I look over at the Qantas A-380 sometimes parked there and I think, "Hey, I could be on that flight!"
For me this is all admittedly somewhat theoretical since I've never been to Australia -- no non-stop from DFW. Until just this past year. Now whenever one of my flights taxis past Terminal D, I look over at the Qantas A-380 sometimes parked there and I think, "Hey, I could be on that flight!"
Apr 29, 2015, 8:42 am
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So, in light of JDiver's updates, now I don't feel quite so bad for giving up my long-time Admirals Club membership/Citi Exec card for the Prestige's mere Admirals Club "access." And of course that's not going to work for any partner lounges, including Qantas's.
For me this is all admittedly somewhat theoretical since I've never been to Australia -- no non-stop from DFW. Until just this past year. Now whenever one of my flights taxis past Terminal D, I look over at the Qantas A-380 sometimes parked there and I think, "Hey, I could be on that flight!"
For me this is all admittedly somewhat theoretical since I've never been to Australia -- no non-stop from DFW. Until just this past year. Now whenever one of my flights taxis past Terminal D, I look over at the Qantas A-380 sometimes parked there and I think, "Hey, I could be on that flight!"
Apr 29, 2015, 8:45 am
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I had actually bought a 30 day AC membership with that expectation of there being Qantas Lounge access if flying Qantas, and booked flights on that basis as well.
Guess I will just email the AC team and see if they can advise if I still have access to the lounges. Hopefully they will be able to clearly confirm who this change affects, and if it affects me provide a solution to this.
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Apr 29, 2015, 9:12 am
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I was on a trip through Australia in March and transited through both the Qantas SYD domestic and international lounges. Both were incredibly full when I passed through (mid-day, a Mon, a Wed and a Thur) to the point that it was very hard to find two seats together and I did see quite a few people either waiting for someone to leave and a few sitting on the floor. I am wondering if this was done as a way to reduce the crowding? Since I don't go through Australia regularly I have no way of knowing if what I experienced was normal for these clubs or perhaps just a coincidence.
Apr 29, 2015, 9:19 am
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So, in light of JDiver's updates, now I don't feel quite so bad for giving up my long-time Admirals Club membership/Citi Exec card for the Prestige's mere Admirals Club "access." And of course that's not going to work for any partner lounges, including Qantas's.
For me this is all admittedly somewhat theoretical since I've never been to Australia -- no non-stop from DFW. Until just this past year. Now whenever one of my flights taxis past Terminal D, I look over at the Qantas A-380 sometimes parked there and I think, "Hey, I could be on that flight!"
For me this is all admittedly somewhat theoretical since I've never been to Australia -- no non-stop from DFW. Until just this past year. Now whenever one of my flights taxis past Terminal D, I look over at the Qantas A-380 sometimes parked there and I think, "Hey, I could be on that flight!"
In any case, can anyone report the success of Qantas Club access from a Citi Exec card? As I understand it, the card provides the full benefits of Admirals Club membership, so access should be provided.
Apr 29, 2015, 9:28 am
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This is far different than the access to QF Clubs anytime we were flying Qantas- é.g. SYD-CNS, as I did last November, etc. And I know I was able to do this last year, with my Club membership (which I converted to Executive card based membership some time ago).