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I just checked on LAX-LHR and things don't look any different than they've looked before. Looked at some near-in dates and some next spring. All the same as they've been for quite a while from what I saw.
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Check the award chart, your 280,000 R/T J ORD-HKG award is a standard AAnytime Level 1 rate.
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Originally Posted by quinella66
(Post 31192363)
Part of the allure in the points game is finding a sweet spot. If they go all revenue and don’t give good value opportunities for using points, they will be hurting the mile selling industry they created as people won’t be as likely to use the credit cards. Suppose you have two flights which are basically identical (same flight times, same duration, same quality of service etc.) except that they are operated by different carriers. Loyalty may be able to "nudge" people towards one carrier if the prices of the two flights are close. But if flight 1 costs 2k, but flight 2 costs 3k, most people will choose flight 1. Ofc, it would be a triumph if loyalty could sway people to book flight 2 still. But it is rarely so powerful. So then, AA and others have figured that relatively small incentives are sufficient to give that "nudge." So AA has reduced benefits just like other carriers. AA still makes good money with its loyalty program, primarily through co-branded credit cards. But loyalty has become relatively less important and revenue management relatively more important. (Let's not forget the CC's are not just about loyalty. The co-branding is a marketing tool. But they're not primarily issuing CCs to generate loyal AA flyers. They're issuing CCs to make money with CC fees.) |
Originally Posted by SeeBuyFly
(Post 31197506)
What you have just discovered is called "AAnytime awards". They have been around for many years. SAAver awards are lower-priced, and so far their prices are fixed; but since they are not available here, the price does not matter.
AA is presenting these mileage costs without identifying them as AAnytime. That is relatively new. i had searched those routes a couple days ago and was seeing the much lower prices. I know that availability changes but I Suppose I wasn’t expecting such a rapid shift in a award prices. |
Originally Posted by denCSA
(Post 31197474)
I just find the dynamic award pricing confusing, and that is what will anger frequent fliers the most, and delight the Kettles at the same time. For example, my Mother and I are traveling to Rome next month, and I started looking weeks ago. To my amazement, there was saver coach everywhere from SLC to FCO, no business. Then I checked PSP to FCO, and while horrible red-eyes and layovers, saver J was peculiarly available on some of the SAME flights I was only seeing available in coach from SLC (PHL-FCO). So I booked the horrible itinerary for both of us (yes TWO AA sAAver J seats were available, my heart almost stopped). I checked from ONT, SNA, LAX, BUR, and the same seats could not be replicated.
A week later I checked again, still no luck out of SLC, but suddenly ONT-FCO opened in J for 2 at sAAver with a much better itinerary, so I rebooked the ticket. But LAX, SNA, BUR, PSP...no love. And checking the non-stop long haul to Europe that I was about to book (DFW-MAD) of course showed no sAAver J space. So while it worked out for us, this whack-a-mole strategy from AA is really obnoxious and just makes frequent flyer programs even more of a complexity that average fliers will love to hate. Why can't we just have more transparency??? |
Originally Posted by BLG
(Post 31197522)
I just checked on LAX-LHR and things don't look any different than they've looked before. Looked at some near-in dates and some next spring. All the same as they've been for quite a while from what I saw.
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Miles discrepancy
I am planning open-jaw flights (NYC-SEA/SFO-NYC) burning miles. AA's Multi-city site says each leg is 12,500 miles which is what I would expect. However, if I price them as two one-way tickets, AA prices the NYC-SEA leg at 6,000 miles (Economy Web Special). The return being 12,500.
I am not complaining but wondering if this is a computer glitch. Does Multi-city not offer Economy Web Specials? Am I missing something? |
More than likely there are fare combination restrictions and fare can only be purchased as a one-way or as part of a round-trip (A-B-A routing). Basic Economy revenue fares often have such restrictions.
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Originally Posted by Max M
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B6 and VX had Dynamic Award Pricing since the inception of their programs; |
I'm still not entirely clear on whether dynamic pricing has officially started yet. I tried searching for a RDU-SJO roundtrip in March, and for a Saturday to Saturday roundtrip, it showed up as 130,000 miles, which is much higher than any AAnytime Level to Central America. Is this the new dynamic pricing for a peak time, or are there just new AAnytime levels?
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is it in line with anytime level 2 award chart https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...ward-chart.jsp
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AAnytime Level 2 would be 37.5K. It would seem the following applies in this case --
"AAnytime award levels vary by date and region. There are select dates that require a higher number of miles (in addition to Level 1 and 2 awards). When you search for awards while booking, you’ll see the applicable award level." Seeing awards as high 80K in some cases from SJO (returns on Dec 2nd for example). |
Confused
I’m really confused as to why AA has continued to ask me and other decisions at my company why we no longer fly AA.....do I really have to explain why abandoned loyalty to any airline? CFO crunched numbers and stated we were not saving enough from sitting all of our business with AA, to let employees book whatever airline they want with a few control parameters. As I travel mostly to Asia, of everyone in my company I’m guessing losing my business was the most lucrative. Cheers, TG |
Originally Posted by travelgeek1197
(Post 31231288)
I’m really confused as to why AA has continued to ask me and other decisions at my company why we no longer fly AA.....do I really have to explain why abandoned loyalty to any airline? CFO crunched numbers and stated we were not saving enough from sitting all of our business with AA, to let employees book whatever airline they want with a few control parameters. As I travel mostly to Asia, of everyone in my company I’m guessing losing my business was the most lucrative. Cheers, TG Regardless, good choice on you/your company's part and glad you'll be on your way. |
X require more miles than U/Z TATL
My wife will be traveling to France in April, we have been looking at award availability SAN-CDG.
There is a fair amount of "saaver" X availability through DFW, ORD and CLT on 787, 777 and 330 - for 75k miles. Thanks to EF (and FT), I was able to find "F" saaver availability on TN LAX-CDG, T availability SAN-LAX - for 57.5 miles. Was necessary to call to create a PNR for the TN flight, agent confirmed that saaver X is often more expensive than U/Z. Part of the new dynamic pricing policy? Many companies will pay for TATL / TPAC W, but not J/F? |
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