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Originally Posted by ricohitman
(Post 31852798)
You haven't been following the accounts restricted thread have you? This is nothing compared to what's going on.
Nothing compared? Well, I suppose form the extreme MS/churner perspective. For the sizable contingent here that does not engage in such activity and are at zero risk, I'd suggest this topic is quite a bit more important and relevant. |
Originally Posted by MikeShores
(Post 31852790)
This probably is the wrong thread, but to follow-up, BA is replacing 777 and 747 equipment on some North American routes with the A350 which is eliminating F from some markets. This could be the reason you're seeing no F availability.
1) A350 J isn't far off the current F product....it's B/E Super Diamond with a door 2) BA guarantee at least two CW award seats on every flight. 3) Less miles needed for J, obviously |
Just waiting for the other shoe to drop with partner airline awards. More than the shocking spike in mileage award price is the notion that anyone would pay 400,000 for a one way ride across the ocean on AA in Business Class.
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Originally Posted by donotblink
(Post 31852623)
I wonder if this will reduce spending on the Barclays and Citi co-branded cards. Somehow I have a feeling Doug Parker is going to lose money again, because that revenue is what's keeping AA afloat!
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Originally Posted by bchandler02
(Post 31853375)
It damn sure will. If awards are going to be this much more expensive, it's no longer worth playing the game unless you are EXP and have tons of trips * EXP multiplier. Anyone else will simply never rack up enough miles to be of value.
CSR card is looking better and better every day! |
Can only get to LHR from AUS via BOS using miles?
Even though BA has a non-stop from AUS to LHR if I look to use AA saver miles for a trip in J every result looking at 6/20 through 9/20 and 1/20 and 2/20 go through BOS. I even tried looking at a DFW to LHR in J and again it only came up with a connection via BOS. Is there any logic as to why or is this part of their dynamic pricing and the BOS->LHR route isn't very popular so they want to put butts in the seat?
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AUS-BOS nonstops are starting sometime in 2020. Twice a day. No doubt one of them connects to the new BOS-LHR on AA.
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Will this change (or should it) appear on the company's balance sheet? Traditionally, I believe miles in existence have been held as a liability on the balance sheet. Given the 67% devaluation, how are they going to report this when it comes time? Maybe the Securities and Exchange Commission should take a deeper dive into the accounting practices regarding these liabilities.
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Originally Posted by t18c97
(Post 31853648)
Even though BA has a non-stop from AUS to LHR if I look to use AA saver miles for a trip in J every result looking at 6/20 through 9/20 and 1/20 and 2/20 go through BOS. I even tried looking at a DFW to LHR in J and again it only came up with a connection via BOS. Is there any logic as to why or is this part of their dynamic pricing and the BOS->LHR route isn't very popular so they want to put butts in the seat?
You can certainly choose routings other than AUS-BOS-LHR on AA metal, but only if you are willing to pay AA's AAnytime award rates. |
But NO AA flight shows up from AUS OR DFW even on AA metal if AASaver J award level is selected.
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Originally Posted by t18c97
(Post 31853781)
But NO AA flight shows up from AUS OR DFW even on AA metal if AASaver J award level is selected.
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I did and it’s 300K to 400K.
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Originally Posted by MikeShores
(Post 31852605)
Absolutely incredible. Can't say I'm surprised, but 40K for Y (with an overnight in Dallas or Pheonix), 65K for Y, or100K for a R/T J AUS-SJD in the off-season is beyond ridiculous. Before this went "live", it was already live. AUS-MCO during spring break for 4 was 480K. in Y
I don't understand why they can't just assign a value to the miles...1/2 cent, 1 cent, etc. and use them as currency instead of these complex and convoluted redemption schemes. 100 miles = $1. If I find an airfare for $480, that'll be 48,000 miles. Thank you, please drive through. If I want to upfare from Y to J and the difference is $800, that'll be 80,000 miles. It would simplify things, make the mileage-earners more secure in knowing what they're getting, and would eliminate the ridiculous AUS-CLT [overnight in CLT] - PHL [overnight in PHL] - LHR for a "saver" award in J for 160000 miles each way. The only value left in this program for domestic Y frequent flyers is the status benefits. Outside of that, I would be a free agent...except they are almost always the least expensive out of AUS. |
Originally Posted by MikeShores
(Post 31853766)
Will this change (or should it) appear on the company's balance sheet? Traditionally, I believe miles in existence have been held as a liability on the balance sheet. Given the 67% devaluation, how are they going to report this when it comes time? Maybe the Securities and Exchange Commission should take a deeper dive into the accounting practices regarding these liabilities.
"The estimated selling price of mileage credits is determined using an equivalent ticket value approach, which uses historical data, including award redemption patterns by geographic region and class of service, as well as similar fares as those used to settle award redemptions. The estimated selling price of miles is adjusted for an estimate of miles that will not be redeemed based on historical redemption patterns." |
Originally Posted by t18c97
(Post 31853823)
I did and it’s 300K to 400K.
I trust you are aware that AA has no obligation to offer any MileSAAver awards on any particular route, or on any particular day. |
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