AA potentially closing accounts due to credit card churning/churn
Jan 7, 2020, 1:29 pm
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Not if the reason for being stranded was violating the terms of a program.
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Jan 7, 2020, 1:35 pm
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Participate in sketchy deal, get stung, and use your influence in your employer to disadvantage the employer?
Can absolutely assure you that if more senior people at her operation even had a whiff that this was the case that she would be history.
What's more interesting is that there are apparently indeed people getting shut down mid trip. Buying a one-way TATL or TPAC at walk-uo prices may sting more than the shutdown itself.
Can absolutely assure you that if more senior people at her operation even had a whiff that this was the case that she would be history.
What's more interesting is that there are apparently indeed people getting shut down mid trip. Buying a one-way TATL or TPAC at walk-uo prices may sting more than the shutdown itself.
Jan 7, 2020, 2:13 pm
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Jan 7, 2020, 2:34 pm
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Jan 7, 2020, 2:41 pm
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ThEy AbUsEd PoLiCiEs [/sarcasm]
I think there could be an angle for those who would fall under EU 261 and European regulations (such as the person discussed at the start of this quote chain) if they had their ticket out of the EU canceled within 2 weeks of travel and didn't break an explicit AA policy (i.e. creating accounts for fake people or pets). Europe doesn't seem to be as lenient for something like canceling award flights (especially mid-trip, stranding someone in the EU) simply because AA didn't like the customer relationship. There would probably need to be a very specific rule that the person broke to make the EU even consider the action of unilaterally canceling the person's award tickets acceptable.
I think there could be an angle for those who would fall under EU 261 and European regulations (such as the person discussed at the start of this quote chain) if they had their ticket out of the EU canceled within 2 weeks of travel and didn't break an explicit AA policy (i.e. creating accounts for fake people or pets). Europe doesn't seem to be as lenient for something like canceling award flights (especially mid-trip, stranding someone in the EU) simply because AA didn't like the customer relationship. There would probably need to be a very specific rule that the person broke to make the EU even consider the action of unilaterally canceling the person's award tickets acceptable.
Jan 7, 2020, 3:37 pm
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I have a close friend who was also on the mailer trAAin. Him and his wife were just in Europe and had their return tickets cancelled 25 hours out. His wife is high up at a local corporate office and actually has direct influence over their travel contracts, needless to say she's ready to completely move away from AA as soon as their current contract is up. This isn't the only factor in that decision, but is really the nail in the coffin.
Can you give some more details ?
When was the award ticket purchased ?
Was the ticket O/W or the return of a R/T ?
What date were they not allowed to fly ?
Thanks
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Jan 7, 2020, 4:19 pm
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The chances that this has legs under EC 261/2004 for an EU departure are laughably small. You may also bet that AA thoroughly analyzed that angle before cancelling tickets mid-trip.
Bottom line is that even if more than 14 days, if there were a valid claim under the Regulation, it would include rebooking and that is exactly what AA is not going to do.
Bottom line is that even if more than 14 days, if there were a valid claim under the Regulation, it would include rebooking and that is exactly what AA is not going to do.
Jan 7, 2020, 4:25 pm
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The chances that this has legs under EC 261/2004 for an EU departure are laughably small. You may also bet that AA thoroughly analyzed that angle before cancelling tickets mid-trip.
Bottom line is that even if more than 14 days, if there were a valid claim under the Regulation, it would include rebooking and that is exactly what AA is not going to do.
Bottom line is that even if more than 14 days, if there were a valid claim under the Regulation, it would include rebooking and that is exactly what AA is not going to do.
https://www.transportation.gov/indiv...rder-2019-2-23
https://www.transportation.gov/indiv...order-2017-7-9
https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/eo-2017-1-11
https://www.transportation.gov/airco.../eo-2016-12-10
https://www.transportation.gov/airco.../eo-2016-12-12
https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/eo-2016-8-30
But this time, THIS TIME, they must be on top of it? Right?
Jan 7, 2020, 5:27 pm
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Wow...just wow... this thread has certainly jumped the shark, even by Flyertalk standards... 
Regards
Regards
Jan 7, 2020, 6:57 pm
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Yeah AA would never do anything to run afoul of regulators
https://www.transportation.gov/indiv...rder-2019-2-23
https://www.transportation.gov/indiv...order-2017-7-9
https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/eo-2017-1-11
https://www.transportation.gov/airco.../eo-2016-12-10
https://www.transportation.gov/airco.../eo-2016-12-12
https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/eo-2016-8-30
But this time, THIS TIME, they must be on top of it? Right?
https://www.transportation.gov/indiv...rder-2019-2-23
https://www.transportation.gov/indiv...order-2017-7-9
https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/eo-2017-1-11
https://www.transportation.gov/airco.../eo-2016-12-10
https://www.transportation.gov/airco.../eo-2016-12-12
https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/eo-2016-8-30
But this time, THIS TIME, they must be on top of it? Right?
Same petty cash petty stuff at most US carriers (and a few foreign carriers as well).
Ask yourself the last time a carrier got bagged for something that matters as in material to the bottom line and you will understand why AA (not to mention UA & DL) know quite well how to handle the regulators on the stuff that matters.`
Jan 7, 2020, 7:27 pm
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C'mon, you think that the people who churn AA cards every month will buy one way TATL tickets at walk up prices? They will obviously buy $200 roundtrip fares originating in the EU and do throwaway ticketing, lol...
Jan 7, 2020, 7:32 pm
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It depends. If they're Flying Only When It's Free = FOWIF (rather than FOTSG) people, they may have no clue about the cost of TATL OW versus RT fares.
Jan 7, 2020, 8:43 pm
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How is this thread different than this one?
AA accounts restricted (Nov/Dec 2019)
(Asking for a friend.
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AA accounts restricted (Nov/Dec 2019)
(Asking for a friend.
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