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Large Price Differential Between Basic and Main Cabin
I am finding a price difference of over 100% between basic and Main Cabin between STL-PHL for November 13th. Basic is $277 and MC is $475. Wow! I have never seen such a large delta. Is this an anomaly? It seem extraordinary.
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I've seen some bigger distortions for non-stop DFW flights to some places (last summer saw some DFW-ATL for 99-150$ BE, ~$300 for MC).
Whenever I add in a connecting flight the difference seems to go to only like 20 dollars though.... |
Originally Posted by jpsj
(Post 31612706)
I am finding a price difference of over 100% between basic and Main Cabin between STL-PHL for November 13th. Basic is $277 and MC is $475. Wow! I have never seen such a large delta. Is this an anomaly? It seem extraordinary.
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Wouldn’t a 100% differential put MC at $554? Either way I agree that is one of the biggest differences I’ve seen.
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On DCA to NYC, I‘ve seen $149 to $600+ deltas on super last minute fares.
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Those deltas are likely an apples vs. oranges situation. If you are comparing BE to the most restrictive Main Cabin fare, the delta tends to not be that large (although growing). But, in this case, it is possible that the lowest available fare buckets in Main Cabin are not on the lower end because they have been purchased and thus OP is looking at a BE to mid or high-range fare.
There are many businesses (and individuals) who simply will not purchase BE fares. Thus, BE is its own market. Others, like OP, do look at the delta and then have a decision to make on flexibility, seat assignment, and the rest of the features of a ticket. |
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 31612797)
Those deltas are likely an apples vs. oranges situation. If you are comparing BE to the most restrictive Main Cabin fare, the delta tends to not be that large (although growing). But, in this case, it is possible that the lowest available fare buckets in Main Cabin are not on the lower end because they have been purchased and thus OP is looking at a BE to mid or high-range fare.
There are many businesses (and individuals) who simply will not purchase BE fares. Thus, BE is its own market. Others, like OP, do look at the delta and then have a decision to make on flexibility, seat assignment, and the rest of the features of a ticket. |
Originally Posted by jpsj
(Post 31612706)
I am finding a price difference of over 100% between basic and Main Cabin between STL-PHL for November 13th. Basic is $277 and MC is $475. Wow! I have never seen such a large delta. Is this an anomaly? It seem extraordinary.
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Yeah, the ‘high-priced’ BE ticks me off. If I have to do BE, I want it to be real cheap. That’s a kick in the nads to pay a much higher price but still not have seat selection etc... $20-$30 above BE each way should be a non-BE ticket
Concur still shows us BE, but we’re allowed to spend $100 beyond it each way before it gets flagged... |
Originally Posted by Antarius
(Post 31613166)
Or AA is undercutting themselves with an uncapped BE. In the last several months, in my experience, Group 9 is a sizable number of people on the aircraft. That cannot be helping their margins.
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AA flies many routes lacking true competition from legacy airlines. E.g. STL, CLT, PHL.
But, some of those routes have competition from LCC e.g. Spirit, SouthWest or Frontier which some corporate programs forbid or alternate airports (e.g. ACY/TTN vs. PHL). As a result - I believe they are pricing for the audience as a corporate travel require to fly out Monday AM and return Thursday PM will pay $600. A leisure travelers is comparing AA with in-cabin baggage vs. a LLC without in-cabin baggage. |
The AA BE fare is basically a match of WN's $139 ($147 with connection) WGA fares. However, having a hub on one end (and a former hub on the other), AA knows it can extract a large differential from it's regular frequent flyers when upfaring to main cabin. You can find more extreme examples when AA sometimes matches ULCC fares with BE from it's hubs. DL also matches WN's WGA fares on this route with it's BE fares, but the differential is DL's standard $35 each way as these aren't captive markets for DL. I've yet to see a differential larger than $35 each way for DL on domestic routes (other than oddball corner cases with broken fares). But then DL does not generally match the ULCC fares. There are a few cases where it is less than $35 on DL out of competitive markets like SEA and BOS when DL is going against AS and B6 routes (AS often has a smaller differential and B6 has yet to introduce BE fares).
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Originally Posted by Antarius
(Post 31613166)
Or AA is undercutting themselves with an uncapped BE. In the last several months, in my experience, Group 9 is a sizable number of people on the aircraft. That cannot be helping their margins.
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Originally Posted by mvoight
(Post 31613915)
I suspect AA is maximizing revenue for the route. If they could sell it for a higher price, they would
On a single flight, they could be maximizing it. But by overselling BE, they could be axing their own feet too across the board. |
I've seen CLT-PHL basic economy price $150 and main cabin $1,150 for the same flights. The painful part was corporate policy dictated I pay $600 to connect in Richmond due to purchase of basic economy being prohibited and the price difference for connecting.
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